current meta weapons?

[frog]

came back after a few months and wondering what the current meta is for bugs and bots

yes im a meta slave and i find it fun, no i dont want to use the weapons that are fun but not good

[Gnome_Bandit]

Laser cannon/Scythe Primary/Rover backpack

[blankitosonic]

Meta vs bots
Primary
Plasma punisher
Scorcher
Sickle
Maybe meta but not fun to use
Purifier
Diligence countersniper

Secondary
Granade pistol
Pistol shotgun ( dont remember name )
Support
Lasser canon
HMG
Commando
Spear ( in bots bunker command missions )
Autocannon
Supply backpack
Armor : medium with fortify ( exterminator or enforcer ) and medium or heavy with high psyk ( when go with HMG )


Meta with bugs
Primary
Blitzer
Dominator
Slugger
Scorcher
Sickle

Maybe meta but not fun to use
I-breaker
Flamethrower

Secondary
Redeemer
Granade pistol
Pistol shotgun

Support
Quasar canon
Commando
HMG
Autocannon
Rover
Armor : light gunner , titan or trench paramedic.
Granades
Stun with both
Maybe fire granades in defense missions vs bugs

[Forblaze]

Bots:
Primary Weapon: Diligence Counter Sniper, Scorcher, Jar Dominator, Punisher Plasma, Eruptor
Main Support Weapon: Autocannon, Anti-Material Rifle, HMG, Laser Cannon
Stratagems: Orbital Precision Strike, Eagle Airstrike, Orbital Laser, Orbital 380MM HE Barrage, Orbital Railcannon, Shield Generator Pack, Commando

Bugs:
Primary Weapon: Breaker Incendiary, Slugger, Blitzer
Support Weapon: Flamethrower (specifically for killing chargers, aim at legs), EAT, Spear (needs headshots)
Stratagems for Bile Titans: Eagle 500kg Bomb, Orbital Precision Strike
Other Stratagems: Guard Dog Rover, Orbital Gatling Barrage, Eagle Napalm Airstrike, Eagle Cluster Bomb

Probably missing some stuff.

[Inardesco]

Whatever gun you used back then, still viable now.

[Mepho]

Originally posted by blankitosonic:

Meta vs bots
[...]
Support
Lasser canon
HMG
Commando
Spear ( in bots bunker command missions )
Autocannon
Supply backpack
[...]

Did they nerf AMR? As long as I played it was extremely good if not the best with bots?

[Jagdtiger]

The hard meta for bots is
Primary:
Jar 5, scorcher or punisher. Scorcher should be used if you don't have an answer to gunships. Punisher if you don't have an answer to mini striders. Jar otherwise

Secondary
Senator, verdict or grenade. Grenade should be used if you don't have an answer to fabs, otherwise pistols are to preserve primary ammo against bot chaff

Grenade
Stun or impact. Impact is VERY niche and only to be used if you still have no answer to fabs with the rest of your loadout and refuse to bring the grenade pistol. Stun is the best by far

Stratagems (Air strike)
Eagle airstrike and orbital precision strike are objectively the best and should 100% be brought with only one exception. With orbital scatter modifier, the precision strike can either be exchanged for a 500kg or changed to a flex stratagem

Support weapon
Autocannon, Anti-Materiel Rifle, Heavy Machine Gun, Laser Cannon, or Railgun. That's the order of power, where the railgun falls significantly further behind the rest, which are all pretty equivalent. This choice determines what you do and do not have effective answers to for your primary, secondary and grenade choices. The spear and commando both have viable loadouts that aren't the hard meta, but can complements teammates running it very well, outperforming another generic meta in the team comp. For the spear, run orbital railcannon strike in your flex stratagem slot, to kill flame hulks that get too close to use the spear, and use either the scorcher or punisher as a primary, depending on how worried you are about gunships. Commando is viable if you put the EAT in the flex stratagem slot and again take either punisher or scorcher.

Flex stratagem slot
The fourth stratagem slot is not integral to the loadout (except in the case of commando and spear), so it can be whatever you are lacking with your specific choices. Smoke strike, EMS mortar, autocannon sentry can all be good for missions where you need to defend. Orbital laser, 380 or walking are good if you want to just throw a stratagem at an outpost and walk away (e.g command bunkers), or you can just take whatever is fun.

[Drazler]

Dont be like those crutch players, be cool and have fun with whatever floats your boat.

[Spades]

This guy is based as hell, knows exactly what he wants and asks for just that and is probably off to play the game as we speak.

[Prowler™]

Well the default stratagem picks for any game vs any enemy on any difficulty would be precision+airstrike unless you want to goof around because these 2 re-arm fast, deploy fast + are super accurate and easily deal enough damage to remove heavy armor/objectives...theres just nothing better really.

Then you flex your last 2 slots for w/e you need. Personally i like the MG43 and/or EATs as these rip through pretty much every enemy in the game but it really don't matter.

Primary options are abit better now post patch...jar/slugger are still very strong for bots. Breaker is the best for bugs (until the nerf it) but either smg+ballistic shield is a super slept on alternative for bots, you can just walk into bruiser drops with this combo and take 0 damage while head shotting all of them after the buffs these weapons got.

Side arms are typically grenade pistol/machine pistol or revolver, pick one to cover your primary weakness. e.g JAR is slow, machine pistol. SMG is light, revolver. I just want to get stuff done fast, nade pistol

You can take a drone if you want but i'd go with the bullet drone as it headshots all enemies around you letting you simply sprint past everything...laser drone damage is really low and if you still use it i dunno what to say...read the patch notes

[frog]

Originally posted by Spades:

This guy is based as hell, knows exactly what he wants and asks for just that and is probably off to play the game as we speak.

i find playing the meta in games fun, i understand people find it annoying and they want to use what ever they want because its fun even if its not meta, im happy for them i dont mind if theyre in my games, i just want to use the meta stuff and not hear the usual "just use what you find fun!"

[Enforcer]

Meta is what weapons you perform the best...

[Boczek121]

Originally posted by blankitosonic:

Meta vs bots
Armor : medium with fortify ( exterminator or enforcer ) and medium or heavy with high psyk ( when go with HMG )

Meta with bugs
Armor : light gunner , titan or trench paramedic.

watch this and decide if it's still worth taking any other armor than dp
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1203792754182979664/1269753341894852720/HELLDIVERSTM_2_-_2024-07-00_22-24-21.mp4?ex=66b13573&is=66afe3f3&hm=6fb8ff59688bf5d9a37ba470a4415ad3ce22e8cbfa5980aa6435ea3c48a25530&

[Singularity's Marauder]

Railgun

[antique_nova]

Here's the builds I use to solo level 9 full map clear missions without dying or stimming. No one else in the game has done this or to my level.

Bots: 445 kills (will release a 500+ kill video soon)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT6zDdKwvWI&list=PL_bpVC_W2PWhwUDG9DYl3351qJBdTqbKC&index=5&pp=iAQB

Bugs: 786 kills (will release a 920+ kill video soon)
Replace quasar with commando.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3klowfPyJHI&list=PL_bpVC_W2PWhwUDG9DYl3351qJBdTqbKC&index=1&pp=iAQB

[ObsidianKey]

Originally posted by blankitosonic:

Meta vs bots
Primary
Scorcher

Meta with bugs
Primary
Scorcher

My boy! 🔫

Helldivers rarely jump-jet, It's underrated. Good vs both.
Jump-jet does; what space bar don't.
(it doesn't do what we want, nope, but it does a lot)