Warbonds slowly ruining the game. . .

[Det.GingerSnaps]

While I absolutely love this game, it is beyond addicting, the slow grind to get SC in order to unlock the new guns in warbonds is getting...tiresome. I understand they are looking for a steady stream of income and warbonds work as a great model to achieve this, but locking all of them except one behind a pay wall is frustrating. We've had four, soon to be five paid warbonds to the one free warbond, they're akin to DLCs without adding that much to the game besides a few new guns.

I get you can grind for them as well, but with how many games there are most people don't want to sink hundreds of hours into one game each month. I also get you can pay for them, but I've paid for the game why should I pay more to unlock guns which is a key mechanic to the game - Arrowhead is smart to have done this in a PvE, if it was was done in a PvP people would be so incredibly upset and the game would have been a flop.

I'm not saying every single warbond should be free but maybe a better ratio of 1:4 (soon 1:5) would be nice. Or, since the after maxing out your ship samples are often stocked to the max, allow player to convert samples to super credits. The exchange rate wouldn't even need to be anything stellar - maybe something like a 10:1, 5:1 and 2:1 giving allowing players with full sample storage to convert all samples for a total of 150 super credits.

Just wondering if anybody else feels the same way? This is still one of my favorite games but the extreme monetization of these warbonds has had me sink less hours into the game, not more.

[μ]

Most players actually have fully unlocked warbond with more than 1k to spare after just getting all samples needed for all modules.

Just think of it this way, try to unlock your modules, your SC/warbonds will come along with them as you farm your samples.

This is why you don't actually see players complaining about SC in this forum often.

The moment they add PVP to this game, I'll gladly uninstall and never visit this forum ever. ^_ ^ Unless PVP doesn't add crucial/exclusive things that forces you to play PVP.

[ObsidianKey]

The warbonds haven't offered me anything tbh.
Everything I enjoy using is in the standard warbond or the auto included regular gear.

None of the crap from the bonds is necessary to play so don't worry about grinding them out. It's a non-issue. I wouldn't even consider them DLCs, maybe a content update, or character expansion pack, or some other term that means less than a DLC would normally.

[Parts]

play the game, full clear maps and you can easily earn enough SC to buy all the warbonds and superstore armour. just play the game

[DeusEstMachina]

I have everything unlocked and have 3000+ SC to spare. never had to grind for SCs or buy them. by the time someone has everything unlocked in the free warbond they usually have enough SCs to buy the next one, and the same goes for the Steeled Veterans one.
Just play the game. The only way you won't have enough SCs before unlocking everything in a warbond if you go away for weeks and come back to cash out on MO medals won by the community, which you instantly spend on your current warbond.

[Evilphd]

Oh please. There are a million different ways they can paywall and gacha this stuff but they aren't. It is probably one of the most consumer friendly monetizations I've seen on a live service. The fact they allow you to earn premium currency through play, and then refund you 30% with every warbond again through play so it's even less of a 'grind' for the next one. I think that is very generous.

Most of the warbonds are reskins yes - even the premium SC items are too - but there is one or two outstanding items in each that are helpful. If you are strapped on a budget, then pick one war bond that matches your mission type and playstyle. The neat thing with being PvE co-op is others who unlocked stuff like boosters can give you that advantage too without 'purchasing' it yourself.

No lootbox mechanics. No RNG skins. No FOMO. They could have been a LOT worse on this end but they held to if they make a good game then the money would come. Give them some credit on this.

[Cruddy]

I care more about the content of the Warbonds, most of them suck.

[Alvin]

Just let us buy medals and samples with $. AH gets a big boost from players who dont wanna spend the time slowly playing and unlocking everything for just the price of the base game.

[tom tomorrow]

I disagree with your overall sentiment. If you think this is a grind, then you don't really know what a grind is. I've been playing casually and have everything unlocked with plenty of SC to spare, yada yada. But I will say that I think they should be adding a new page to the free warbond every time they add a new one.

[Slavbringer57]

Mate you forgot seeing the cracks in this game's monetization isn't allowed in this here forums.

[Oobaneko]

Slowly killing the game. What we have?
Straight up price of 10$ for several cosmetictics, weapons, buffs.

What we do not have?
Weapon\cosmetics lottery.
Battle pass, where we won't get anything, if we didn't complete dailies, weeklies, went into the game as on full-time job.
10$ least skins.
Constant events that also eat a lot of our time.

Again, what we have in Helldivers 2?
Warbonds we can unlock by playing the game, having fun and finding SC.
One time purchase for weapons, cosmetics, skins.
We get all we bought, not buying the chance to earn all of these.

Nah, it's not killing the game.

[Vespertellino]

Then don't buy it to let them know

[Midas]

Another day, another ill-informed person convinced this one specific thing is ruining/killing the game.

[Mother Heffer]

Originally posted by Sonicle:

People always underestimate how much SC they get. It doesn't take 100's of hours per month. You're looking at 22-33 hours with some real bad RNG. I've never farmed, just played the game normally and I've got all the warbonds unlocked and according to the in game timer, I've been on planet for 99 hours, 38 mins, so with 5 warbonds that's 5kSC spent.

Each warbond gives 300sc, and the starter gives 700 (2200total), so 2.8k earned ingame. I've got enough for the next 2 warbonds so, 4k+ in 99 hours.

The only people that are going to struggle are those that play with friends (who are lazy and can't be bothered opening stuff) or solo players.

Dude... listen to yourself.

99 hours.


I could literally pay you $1 an hour to unlock everything...

[Inardesco]

Originally posted by Det.GingerSnaps:

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You don't NEED a warbond at day of release.

It's not a battlepass that feeds on FOMO to get you to spend money cuz if you don't all will be gone in 30 days.

Who cares if you unlock a battlepass 2 months later?

[Inardesco]

Originally posted by hiits_alvin:

Just let us buy medals and samples with $. AH gets a big boost from players who dont wanna spend the time slowly playing and unlocking everything for just the price of the base game.

No.

♥♥♥♥ the idea of "let us buy ♥♥♥♥ with money".

Its a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game, play it.