Last leg on Nerfing

[Fairy]

if next update there is any unjustify nerf, anti fun attitude, I'm leaving for real and I will never buy a game from Arrowhead studio again. Bought Democratic detonation on ps with my own money to support the dev, then they scam me the next day by nerfing Eruptor even now still feel like total garbage to use. new player experience is getting poorer and poorer as well, Slugger is still nerfed, breaker is still nerfed. what's the point of all these nerf? are we competing with anyone? is there a leaderboard or daily quest that I must complete?

you know, when new update doesn't even feel interesting and raise positive expectation, that's a sign of a dying game. Do the right thing, stop the nerf, don't listen to people who don't even buy warbond with their money to support you, try harder will be all that is left for your game and they won't be paying you. let people have fun, stop pre-nerfed weapon and balance things base on spreadsheet.

[Inardesco]

Originally posted by Alice Schach:

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You dont even own the game.

Nor has there been any information other than; new enemies, new difficulty, new missions.

[Fairy]

Originally posted by Sonicle:

What's the point in nerfs? To balance the game.

If you can only have fun using overpowered weapons, might I suggest trying EDF? That might be more up your alley.

Player count dropped from 400k to 12k in less than 5 months. Unjustified nerfs have led to this decline. All those weapons that got nerfed are never picked again; only a small niche of players try to make them work, often with excessive effort. Shrapnel should never have been removed. If it was too powerful for one-shotting chargers, they could have reduced the damage to make it balanced. Instead, they scrapped the entire point of using the Eruptor. The explosive crossbow is now a meme. Its only use is to blow up bug holes, and it has non-existent AOE damage. You can even shoot your own foot in light armor three times and not die. The Adjudicator is better, but its high recoil doesn’t match the damage it deals; it takes almost 10 bullets to kill a spewer with headshots. Its damage should be swapped with the Tenderizer.

The stats show that all those nerfed weapons are shelved and never picked again, so where is the balance?

If the Slugger wasn't nerfed, it would be a competitor to the Dominator right now. If the Eruptor was properly balanced and still had shrapnel, more people would pick it up. The Adjudicator gets more picks, but it's a very niche weapon. The game is not hard—I can solo helldive with a smoke meme and win with no problem—but what's the point of playing if your weapons aren't even useful and you are limited to the meta? Trying something else means you need much more effort to make it work, and it's not even reasonable effort. Give me a reason why I should pick the Slugger over the Dominator as of now? There is none. Their balance team is just bad, no matter how you try to defend them, and it's one of the factors driving people away from the game.

[Fairy]

Originally posted by Inardesco:

Originally posted by Alice Schach:

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You dont even own the game.

Nor has there been any information other than; new enemies, new difficulty, new missions.

I have PS? ah I forget some people cannot read lol you need to redo your GE

[darkblade]

Originally posted by Alice Schach:

if next update there is any unjustify nerf, anti fun attitude, I'm leaving for real and I will never buy a game from Arrowhead studio again. Bought Democratic detonation on ps with my own money to support the dev, then they scam me the next day by nerfing Eruptor even now still feel like total garbage to use. new player experience is getting poorer and poorer as well, Slugger is still nerfed, breaker is still nerfed. what's the point of all these nerf? are we competing with anyone? is there a leaderboard or daily quest that I must complete?

you know, when new update doesn't even feel interesting and raise positive expectation, that's a sign of a dying game. Do the right thing, stop the nerf, don't listen to people who don't even buy warbond with their money to support you, try harder will be all that is left for your game and they won't be paying you. let people have fun, stop pre-nerfed weapon and balance things base on spreadsheet.

The eruptor was broken and we all knew it was to strong for a normal weapon

But i thnik they said no more nerfs only fixes.
They will fix the commando because the factory destruction from any direction thing is a bug. But i hope and thnik they wont change anything else

[Fairy]

Originally posted by darkblade:

Originally posted by Alice Schach:

if next update there is any unjustify nerf, anti fun attitude, I'm leaving for real and I will never buy a game from Arrowhead studio again. Bought Democratic detonation on ps with my own money to support the dev, then they scam me the next day by nerfing Eruptor even now still feel like total garbage to use. new player experience is getting poorer and poorer as well, Slugger is still nerfed, breaker is still nerfed. what's the point of all these nerf? are we competing with anyone? is there a leaderboard or daily quest that I must complete?

you know, when new update doesn't even feel interesting and raise positive expectation, that's a sign of a dying game. Do the right thing, stop the nerf, don't listen to people who don't even buy warbond with their money to support you, try harder will be all that is left for your game and they won't be paying you. let people have fun, stop pre-nerfed weapon and balance things base on spreadsheet.

The eruptor was broken and we all knew it was to strong for a normal weapon

But i thnik they said no more nerfs only fixes.
They will fix the commando because the factory destruction from any direction thing is a bug. But i hope and thnik they wont change anything else

I know, that's why unjustify nerf. Eruptor Shrapnel dealing too much damage? Oh how about you reduce that said damage instead of removing entire point of Eruptor without that shrapnel it just boring. Shrapnel is fun even if it accidentally team kill you or teammate it just add more depth and skills ceiling for player. crazy right? that they can just reduce shrapnel damage to a reasonable levels without removing it.

[Shiroe (cortana)]

Originally posted by Alice Schach:

Originally posted by Inardesco:

You dont even own the game.

Nor has there been any information other than; new enemies, new difficulty, new missions.

I have PS? ah I forget some people cannot read lol you need to redo your GE

if you are on PS, then why are you in a PC forum then....

[Logen Neuf-Doigts]

i'm excited over the update
also eruptor is a very good bot weapon
no use in using breaker because incendiary is OP
i hope you leave the steam forums aswell

[Sleepy_Walker]

Not entirely on topic: While I miss the eruptor shrapnel and think completely removing this interesting mechanic on the weapon is rather sad face (also that frag grenades are lanquishing in a state of shrapnel weakness), I do think the current eruptor is roughly as useful as it was previously. I like to pair it with MG-43 and scrap some toasters.

(I do wish slugger had punisher stagger again (or something equivalently useful). I was not a fan of the slugger before, preferring previous dominator, and I certainly do not see much worth in it now. Admittedly I don't use it much, so maybe I am missing something, but I don't really feel that better handling is worth it much when I use a controller.)

Enemies are getting a power increase and a force organization mix-up. The game's weapons and stratagems are going to be shuffled in regards to usefulness/tier list. Keeps things interesting. Don't get too hung up on the change until after trying things out.

Now if only we could get those anti-tank mines so those spore-cloaked charges would just blow themselves up investigating an SEAF mine dispenser.

[Kyle the Karrot]

Idk why people want this game to be easy. You're playing the wrong game if you're looking for that.

[Welbert Asker]

Originally posted by Sonicle:

What's the point in nerfs? To balance the game.

they balanced the players right the ♥♥♥♥ out of here

[Tahla]

What if they don't nerf any weapons but the new enemies have higher armor ratings so old weapons are less effective?

[Fairy]

Originally posted by Sonicle:

Originally posted by Alice Schach:

player count from 400k to 12k in less than 5 months and read again,

A correlation between variables, however, does not automatically mean that the change in one variable is the cause of the change in the values of the other variable. Causation indicates that one event is the result of the occurrence of the other event; i.e. there is a causal relationship between the two events.

Nerfs aren't why this game is down 94%.

No matter how you try to defend it, just open your eyes and look around at people who are complaining about quitting. Nerfs are definitely one of the issues. These people used to support the developers by spending more than 70 euros on the game. What do they get in return? False advertising and a vaporware product that is not even fun to use anymore. People look at the Polar Patriot trailer and think, "Wow, the Purifier can one-shot a Scout Strider," but in reality, that never happens. It was pre-nerfed, where a full charge should do 300% damage.

I can see your point as you are a fanboy yes-man who would rather see the game fall and eventually fade away than see it improve. Simply because you cannot accept that the developers made a lot of mistakes and are not experienced enough in balancing the game they never expected to be this successful. By further fueling their ego, you are one of the reasons killing the game as well.

I do not live in America, I don't use Reddit or whatever that is and who watch youtube this day. old people?

[Crunchy[Daz]]

Stop obsessing over nerfs, you don't even know what it means.

[Lav]

Originally posted by CrunchyDaz:

Stop obsessing over nerfs, you don't even know what it means.

Damn using railgun is fun.
“Were nerfing railgun into uselessness, use something else”

Okay the breaker is pretty fun
“You can’t use that, we’re nerfing it”

…Alright we’ll use the slugger.
“Has too much ranged capabilities, we’ll nerf its close range by a metric ton”

Wow, eruptor might be worth using
“You know the drill moron”

“Why has the game lost 90% of its playerbase wtf?! :( isn't shooting elites for 3 minutes a pop fun to you?”

[StormhawkV]

The devs drove tons of players away with their decisions. It's pretty obvious looking at the numbers and the events that happened around this time. Ofc they had help from Sony with their PSN debacle but messing with the guns, the AI, the spawnrates and new enemies they added took a toll on the playercount. Now we'll see if they have learned their lesson.