Nonspecific Objectives are frustrating, not fun.

[Chick-fil-A]

I understand what you probably wanted from it. Less "direct to point", maybe even a "there would be no way to know for sure this spot is where it should be" or even "Teamwork!"

Whatever the case. I just want you to know that running around for 6 minutes on a foggy, low visibility map for 6 minutes out of my 40 minute mission trying to find an objective is in no way fun, immersive, or "team-building", its just frustrating to missions that already involve tons of running around.

[Footman]

If they want to put Atmospheric Spores, the least they can do is mandate a Radar Station secondary, maybe give it a steady ping as an audio cue to it.

[THETA 🌭 ZERO]

What objectives are you referring to in particular? Do you mean the mission modifier where it only gives you the area an objective is in?

[AonGreyFox]

My guess is the nuke nursery. You have to run around quite a bit. In bad planet it can be really, really, really frustrating.

I was once there in the night time, bad fog result in -90% visibility and can't do a thing because up my brightness more will kill my eye in the well lid area.

When will they address hoard shooter is not need Doom 3 darkness without flashlight?

[adobo]

Are you talking about side objectives? they're not really that important. And the important side objectives will make themselves known since it will attack you.

[Kaine]

I will admit I have failed a few missions solo because I just couldnt find the damn nest

[THETA 🌭 ZERO]

For all of these, I would just say use your eyeballs.

The nurseries are obvious because it has a bunch of bug holes despite not being a nest.

Side objects that aren't marked on the map have large towers which are visible from a distance.

On the mission modifier for bots which makes locations ambiguous, there are key landmarks or land formations which make their location obvious. Even for the geological study, which I would say is the hardest to find with obscured objectives, is distinctly located in uncharacteristic valleys or pits.

[Kaine]

Originally posted by THETA🌭ZER0:

For all of these, I would just say use your eyeballs.

The nurseries are obvious because it has a bunch of bug holes despite not being a nest.

Side objects that aren't marked on the map have large towers which are visible from a distance.

On the mission modifier for bots which makes locations ambiguous, there are key landmarks or land formations which make their location obvious. Even for the geological study, which I would say is the hardest to find with obscured objectives, is distinctly located in uncharacteristic valleys or pits.

The issue being discussed is when its misted- I dont use cheat mods.

[Footman]

They really need to mandate Radar Stations when a modifier messes up your map and vision.

[ObsidianKey]

lack of terrain, procedural generation + they've always crashed their cyber truck.

[Hariman]

Originally posted by THETA🌭ZER0:

What objectives are you referring to in particular? Do you mean the mission modifier where it only gives you the area an objective is in?

I think it's the modifier that gives objectives a range they can be in (like the "Nuke Nursery" objectives) instead of just having the exact location.

I really wish there were some positive modifiers that would come and go.

[gothicpando]

You: "But how does this make the game more fun?"

AH: "...Fun?"

[Iron Horse]

Originally posted by gothicpando:

You: "But how does this make the game more fun?"

AH: "...Fun?"

"How can we nerf this..fun"?

[Footman]

Originally posted by gothicpando:

You: "But how does this make the game more fun?"

AH: "...Fun?"

Potentially Malicious Link? Not cool.

[THETA 🌭 ZERO]

Originally posted by Kaine:

Originally posted by THETA🌭ZER0:

For all of these, I would just say use your eyeballs.

The nurseries are obvious because it has a bunch of bug holes despite not being a nest.

Side objects that aren't marked on the map have large towers which are visible from a distance.

On the mission modifier for bots which makes locations ambiguous, there are key landmarks or land formations which make their location obvious. Even for the geological study, which I would say is the hardest to find with obscured objectives, is distinctly located in uncharacteristic valleys or pits.

The issue being discussed is when its misted- I dont use cheat mods.

I don't have much issues seeing with mist, landmarks are pretty visible to make out even in the worst visibility planets. It could be my graphics settings, I turned down volumetric fog and bloom and I remember that helping.

[sweng]

Originally posted by Footman:

They really need to mandate Radar Stations when a modifier messes up your map and vision.

But the radar station doesnt reveal the main objective location when in poor intel modifier. I think this is overlook by dev and should be change