there's something strange about this games steam charts on steamdb

[treos100]

this game came out in 2024, correct? then what is this weird user data from august 14, 2017 to february 20, 2018?

is this a bug on steamdb's part or something?

[retroquark]

Two possible options: the data is correct, and the app-id they used to pull traffic-data from steam using steam's console-commands was always for Helldivers 2. And it, possibly, has to do with the prototype they supposedly had up and running many years ago.

Or, the data is incorrect, and has to do with some steam api changes (or a change to the current user-ID). So that either the stats are from a random game before a database change. Or it's for a user-ID of a game that was removed at some point and then repurposed for use again.

There was some kind of fix to the steamapps method for getting lists of games made a few years ago as well, so that's another possibility. That maybe there are many games on the steamapps api that return data from the past for the "same ID", for an ID that belongs to a different extension of the database lookup.

[J.P.]

Are you sure you weren't looking at Helldivers the first game?

[Koala 4peace]

The game may have been in Steam already as a closed alpha or beta while they were testing and thus counted for the charts? I have seen other games that have players way before release.

Edit: Vermintide 2 was released in March, 2018. The Steam Charts website detect activity since September 2017.

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by treos100:

is this a bug on steamdb's part or something?

The more likely explanation is that Valve repurposed an id from something else.

[treos100]

Originally posted by J.P.:

Are you sure you weren't looking at Helldivers the first game?

https://imgur.com/a/4XIl8B4

[treos100]

Originally posted by retroquark:

And it, possibly, has to do with the prototype they supposedly had up and running many years ago.

maybe? i mean, i do know it takes many years to make a video game. well...a good one anyway usually

[J.P.]

Originally posted by treos100:

Originally posted by J.P.:

Are you sure you weren't looking at Helldivers the first game?

https://imgur.com/a/4XIl8B4

yep you were looking at the right thing for sure

[Crunchy[Daz]]

Wait, SteamDB is not at all accurate and people should have never treated it like it is? Shocking. If only people had been saying this for years now.

[treos100]

Originally posted by CrunchyDaz:

Wait, SteamDB is not at all accurate and people should have never treated it like it is? Shocking. If only people had been saying this for years now.

nice try but i don't reward bait and trolling with clown points.

[hotmatrixx]

Originally posted by retroquark:

Two possible options: the data is correct, and the app-id they used to pull traffic-data from steam using steam's console-commands was always for Helldivers 2. And it, possibly, has to do with the prototype they supposedly had up and running many years ago.

Or, the data is incorrect, and has to do with some steam api changes (or a change to the current user-ID). So that either the stats are from a random game before a database change. Or it's for a user-ID of a game that was removed at some point and then repurposed for use again.

There was some kind of fix to the steamapps method for getting lists of games made a few years ago as well, so that's another possibility. That maybe there are many games on the steamapps api that return data from the past for the "same ID", for an ID that belongs to a different extension of the database lookup.

yeah, it's the first one.
I've been on dev teams where this has happened. You get a valid Steam ID for your game so that you can work on intergrating and testing the MP functions throughout the builds, usually. It saves a LOT of backtracking over old code trying to figure out how you keep breaking stuff that you forgotten how you coded a year ago....

[treos100]

Originally posted by hotmantirxx:

Originally posted by retroquark:

Two possible options: the data is correct, and the app-id they used to pull traffic-data from steam using steam's console-commands was always for Helldivers 2. And it, possibly, has to do with the prototype they supposedly had up and running many years ago.

Or, the data is incorrect, and has to do with some steam api changes (or a change to the current user-ID). So that either the stats are from a random game before a database change. Or it's for a user-ID of a game that was removed at some point and then repurposed for use again.

There was some kind of fix to the steamapps method for getting lists of games made a few years ago as well, so that's another possibility. That maybe there are many games on the steamapps api that return data from the past for the "same ID", for an ID that belongs to a different extension of the database lookup.

yeah, it's the first one.
I've been on dev teams where this has happened. You get a valid Steam ID for your game so that you can work on intergrating and testing the MP functions throughout the builds, usually. It saves a LOT of backtracking over old code trying to figure out how you keep breaking stuff that you forgotten how you coded a year ago....

interesting bit of industry knowledge

[hotmatrixx]

Originally posted by treos100:

Originally posted by hotmantirxx:

yeah, it's the first one.
I've been on dev teams where this has happened. You get a valid Steam ID for your game so that you can work on intergrating and testing the MP functions throughout the builds, usually. It saves a LOT of backtracking over old code trying to figure out how you keep breaking stuff that you forgotten how you coded a year ago....

interesting bit of industry knowledge

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