The super store IS really P2W

[AntiDreamer]

I didn't know about the armors I thought they're just cosmetic but then I thought they just have perks and most of the perks are repeated in different armors BUT now I see they sell an armor with a more than usual armor rating than the heavy armor and a light armor which is the fastest among all they have in the warbands right now. So, if you want the fastest armor or the strongest one you kinda need to pay up.

[Willem]

Another clown farmer pffff

[Flanking Fetus]

there are no pay to win features.

[Saeletra]

Originally posted by Lusid:

It's worth noting that armor values don't have any effect. The lightest armor and the heaviest with extra padding both take the same number of hits to die. This is probably a bug and may be fixed in the future but as of this writing armor values (and extra padding) have no actual effect.

Armor test vs bugs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_tToaxU1cw
Armor test vs bots: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GZ9vE3ykQE

Because this was made by a guy who doesn't actually know game mechanics. Hasn't played HD1 and it shows hard lmao.

The armor system is just a port of HD1's armor system.

The armor rating protects you from laser/projectile (rockets) fire from Automatons and Impact damage primarily and not melee damage from the bugs. Melee damage is not negated by armor at all.

Go ahead and test it on the Automatons and see the night-day difference between Heavy, Medium and Light Armor there.

[QLIQ]

Originally posted by SushiJaguar:

Untrue. There is currently no armour with a higher armour rating than the one you get in the free Warbond. There is also currently no armour with a faster speed rating than the one you get in the free Warbond.

There is no HEAVY ARMOR with extra padding outside the fomo store. Don´t lie.

[@%thesock10150alpha49]

God, how I wish you were right. I am going to spend so much money, I'd love for some of it to actually help.

[Midnight]

Yeah but I've just reached lvl 22 and I got enough credits to buy the premium warbond and almost have enough on top of that to buy an armor set from the store.

And that's without unlocking half the SC nodes in both of the warbonds.

Right now the rate at which I'm earning SC is surprisingly high. And I'm not even specifically trying to loot everything. Medals are more of a bottleneck than credits right now.

[Kuree]

The highest armour rating I've seen is 144 and that was available from the base game progression pass. There was an armour set before the store refresh that had the Extra Padding effect but it also only had 144 which made it worse than the one's with Fortified.

[Sir Floyd The Breathless]

You can literally get 500 super credits within a couple hours by simply running around 40 minute missions on "trivial" looking for caches. The "premium currency" can be farmed like Warframe. Even then, the "p2w" armor has the exact same effects as the ones you can obtain by playing and getting medals.

[Redeyeflight]

As always, it's important to note that, games with cash shops are designed to hook you then bleed you. For everyone defending the premium with cash shop model, understand that making it as fair as possible for now is intended to be the hook, and a means by which the weak minded can defend the game. At some point game purchase income slows down, and "Lucky you! You can now buy the most powerful gear from the cash shop!".

As long as you understand this WILL happen, and know that you're just having as much fun as you can until it does you should be OK. If you're under the impression that this will be the first an only game not to do it I feel sorry for whoever depends on you.

Real money stores exist to exploit your psychology. End of story. No buts. Full stop.

[The Pigeon Whisperer 🐦]

I've gotten over 1000 super credits so far just by playing, It is not difficult..

[PandaSav]

that same armor is there in free warbond mate!!! troll op. Yea and super credits are ez asf to farm on 40 min missions

[Sir Floyd The Breathless]

Originally posted by Meesa called Jar Jar Binks:

people saying P2W haven't even touched the game. Go ahead, dump all your money at the MTX and go to Helldive (the difficulty) alone and complete the mission deathless if it is that much of a P2W as you guys say.

I've gotten all the super store armor just by playing without getting the super citizen pack. Per map getting 2-5 super credits drop. All these crying just to vilify a great game.

Exactly, if it is so P2W like they say, I can't wait to see some of these dudes finish a mission on Helldive Solo, let alone Extreme. That 144 armor rating, 50% speed sure looks p2w when the bile titan or charger trounces your sorry ass.

[PandaSav]

Originally posted by All You Can Eat Buffet:

Originally posted by Meesa called Jar Jar Binks:

people saying P2W haven't even touched the game. Go ahead, dump all your money at the MTX and go to Helldive (the difficulty) alone and complete the mission deathless if it is that much of a P2W as you guys say.

I've gotten all the super store armor just by playing without getting the super citizen pack. Per map getting 2-5 super credits drop. All these crying just to vilify a great game.

Exactly, if it is so P2W like they say, I can't wait to see some of these dudes finish a mission on Helldive Solo, let alone Extreme. That 144 armor rating, 50% speed sure looks p2w when the bile titan or charger trounces your sorry ass.

skill/tactics >>> p2w in this game xDDD

[Solvem Probler]

Pay to Win against WHO? The bugs?
I see a whale join the game Im glad, because it means an easier time for me and more exp.

[Katitoff]

Originally posted by AntiDreamer:

I didn't know about the armors I thought they're just cosmetic but then I thought they just have perks and most of the perks are repeated in different armors BUT now I see they sell an armor with a more than usual armor rating than the heavy armor and a light armor which is the fastest among all they have in the warbands right now. So, if you want the fastest armor or the strongest one you kinda need to pay up.

And if you take a look at light vs heavy armor testing vid, you'll notice how armor is irrelevant and it is pointless to wear anything but stock light armor from first page of free warbond.