are the stratagems you see from space really real time other players

[Chadimus Raticus]

I saw something the other day saying that it was and wasnt sure of the validity

[BENN-EE5]

Would be cool, but I doubt its real.

[Scyris]

I don't think its real, they just prob randomly fire some off to give the illusion that it is. Just like I don't believe all the ships in orbit are player ships, they are just part of the background.

[The Sid Man]

I wish we could get an official dev confirm on this, as I read that it supposedly is real-time.

[Mutant1988]

Originally posted by Scyris:

I don't think its real, they just prob randomly fire some off to give the illusion that it is. Just like I don't believe all the ships in orbit are player ships, they are just part of the background.

I think the ships might be real.

Which is to say, the visible amount is correlated to the amount of players present at any one planet.

It wouldn't require precise timing to simulate, unlike planetary orbital strikes/drops.

[Howitzer]

Originally posted by Mutant1988:

I think the ships might be real.

Which is to say, the visible amount is correlated to the amount of players present at any one planet.

It wouldn't require precise timing to simulate, unlike planetary orbital strikes/drops.

I can confirm this. I went to the new sector after Heeth was liberated and the skies were significantly less decorated with Super Destroyers than Angel's Venture.

[Axis of Lint]

Originally posted by Mutant1988:

Originally posted by Scyris:

I don't think its real, they just prob randomly fire some off to give the illusion that it is. Just like I don't believe all the ships in orbit are player ships, they are just part of the background.

I think the ships might be real.

Which is to say, the visible amount is correlated to the amount of players present at any one planet.

It wouldn't require precise timing to simulate, unlike planetary orbital strikes/drops.

Correlated yes, but just to be clear, it's not a precise showing (since there are often times 20-30k people over Angel's Venture and that many ships would blot out the sky.).

[CH13F]

Originally posted by Axis of Lint:

Originally posted by Mutant1988:

I think the ships might be real.

Which is to say, the visible amount is correlated to the amount of players present at any one planet.

It wouldn't require precise timing to simulate, unlike planetary orbital strikes/drops.

Correlated yes, but just to be clear, it's not a precise showing (since there are often times 20-30k people over Angel's Venture and that many ships would blot out the sky.).

if our pcs wont fry first. i love smell of napalm coming from 30000 ships...oh wait thats my cpu

[Hobbs]

You can see the stratagems hit from the destroyers, other explosions, stratagems tossed on the planet too. Would be absolutely epic if even some of them were from real players.

[Nabbs1]

Im going to say yes and believe its true cause thats just cool

[DebrisHauler]

Originally posted by Mutant1988:

Originally posted by Scyris:

I don't think its real, they just prob randomly fire some off to give the illusion that it is. Just like I don't believe all the ships in orbit are player ships, they are just part of the background.

I think the ships might be real.

Which is to say, the visible amount is correlated to the amount of players present at any one planet.

It wouldn't require precise timing to simulate, unlike planetary orbital strikes/drops.

There are way more players at every single planet - unrelated to the 20ish ships in that scene. Nearly half a million in game. The 2 to 5 icons of currently active missions you can join on the war table are also a teeny tiny subsample of currently active missions we don't get to see.

[ZBrinz]

Originally posted by Hobbs:

You can see the stratagems hit from the destroyers, other explosions, stratagems tossed on the planet too. Would be absolutely epic if even some of them were from real players.

Couldn’t possibly be randomly generated based on players on that planet

[Tigerhawk71]

No

[PureNubb]

Think of every ship you see on your ship outpost ad all the ships in a micro server

[Tem]

Originally posted by Axis of Lint:

Correlated yes, but just to be clear, it's not a precise showing (since there are often times 20-30k people over Angel's Venture and that many ships would blot out the sky.).

You're underestimating how big a planet is.

Assuming the planets in Helldivers are roughly Earth-sized, the Earth's surface area is 200 million square miles. I'm not sure how large a Destroyer in Helldivers is supposed to be, but they look pretty small for something called a "Destroyer". Just by eyeballing it from the size of the Pelican / Helldiver Launchers, I'd guess about 200m long by 30m wide.

The largest ship on Earth is a supertanker that's 458 meters long and 70 meters wide. Let's use those dimensions just to play it safe, even though that's about the size of 5 Helldivers Destroyers put together, if my estimate is close.

You'd need approximately 80 of that supertanker to cover 1 square mile, or 16 billion of them to cover the surface of the Earth. 100k of the supertanker wouldn't even cover 0.001% of the Earth's surface, much less be enough to blot out the sky. If you want a sense of how little that would cover, make an image that's 316x316 pixels, and then color a single pixel.

That's not proof that the ships/stratagems are 1:1 with real players actively playing, but it doesn't seem implausible to me, just with a cap on render distance (otherwise you'd see ships stretching to the horizon).

[Frostbeast]

Dont think so. Every ship has the same name. They all named Liberty and the name is mirrored for some reason.