How difficult would the Illuminate be?

[SneakyStripes]

This is mainly for the HD1 Veterans. Compared to everything we've been fighting in HD2, how hard would it be to fight the Illuminate if/when they show up on the Galactic War Board? Super weak,below average, average, above average, super strong? Do they have shield technology similar to our shield packs? What types of weaponry do they use? I've never played HD1 so I don't know anything about them. Looking for any useful tips in case they decide to get into this war with Super Earth.

[Jonny Sparta]

They were kinda the hardest b/c of the mind control mostly. I don't think anyone's mentioned the waves of invisible assassins yet either. They were quite deadly and very similar to the stalkers though had much less defence and came in much higher numbers.

A cool thing about fighting them though was the different stratagems and weapons that were strong against them.

Their shields would tank a heavy hit from an airstrike so lighter rapid fire options were often better, same with weapons.

You could destroy mind control projectiles before they reached you but many people didn't. Also shields would mitigate a hit or 2 of mind control so they were a nice item to use.

[Mathias Giovanni]

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Such a bright joke.

A ray of light in the darkness really.

Flashlights are available to illuminate our path.

[Yu Ryujin]

Publicado originalmente por SneakyStripes:

This is mainly for the HD1 Veterans. Compared to everything we've been fighting in HD2, how hard would it be to fight the Illuminate if/when they show up on the Galactic War Board? Super weak,below average, average, above average, super strong? Do they have shield technology similar to our shield packs? What types of weaponry do they use? I've never played HD1 so I don't know anything about them. Looking for any useful tips in case they decide to get into this war with Super Earth.

illuminanits in 1 was all about dodging and positionment, they would put energy shields everywhere to divide helldivers, shoot you from all zone, juping at you and get melee too, teleporting, etc... It was really cool, and I expected Illuminatis to be Hard for sure, They HAVE to be, or it would be pretty dissapointing, and making joke of the lore.

[Wulfen]

In the first game, they were able to invert your controls for a short while. I REALLY hope they implement that again in some form

[TunaHematoma]

Illuminate were the trickster faction that discombobulates you and tries to finish you off in some sneaky fashion like cloaked melee units or offscreen snipers. They would deploy wall generators to limit your movement and invert your controls.

Other than that, though, they were physically weak except for their top tier unit. Machineguns and basic grenades were extremely effective in ripping through them, even at high difficulties.

Their most notable gimmick was the inverted controls, but on a 2D plane this was actually easy enough to counteract with some practice. They were probably the second easiest opponent after bugs, just the most annoying to fight.

Not sure how they'll carry over mind control to a 3D environment. Maybe they'll make us see fellow Helldivers as enemies to bait us into shooting each other lol

[Resist]

If going by HD1, less dificult than the bots, but more annoying.

[Slayer Slayerson]

Bugs are fun, maybe easy, if you're like me and you want a starship trooper game, then this is why you play helldivers.
People using bug tactics vs bots, struggle and say they are too hard.
Illuminate are just annoying and obnoxious.

[SneakyStripes]

Publicado originalmente por TunaHematoma:

Illuminate were the trickster faction that discombobulates you and tries to finish you off in some sneaky fashion like cloaked melee units or offscreen snipers. They would deploy wall generators to limit your movement and invert your controls.

Other than that, though, they were physically weak except for their top tier unit. Machineguns and basic grenades were extremely effective in ripping through them, even at high difficulties.

Their most notable gimmick was the inverted controls, but on a 2D plane this was actually easy enough to counteract with some practice. They were probably the second easiest opponent after bugs, just the most annoying to fight.

Not sure how they'll carry over mind control to a 3D environment. Maybe they'll make us see fellow Helldivers as enemies to bait us into shooting each other lol

That would cause a lot of frustration I think. It would probably give trolls even more ammo too.

[Fannidan13]

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This is mainly for the HD1 Veterans. Compared to everything we've been fighting in HD2, how hard would it be to fight the Illuminate if/when they show up on the Galactic War Board? Super weak,below average, average, above average, super strong? Do they have shield technology similar to our shield packs? What types of weaponry do they use? I've never played HD1 so I don't know anything about them. Looking for any useful tips in case they decide to get into this war with Super Earth.

As many have already said, energy shields are the big thing with the squids. Only like two of their units had any real armor to speak of, so using laser, arc, or high ROF weapons to burn out their shield was best. The annoying bits were the shield walls used to separate the team, and the random psyonic attack that reversed all your controls. (Psycho Mantis MGS style)

[Neru]

Look like zerg terran protoss formula to me

[Lisky]

Well we will wanna be careful about the invisible enemies and enemy reinforcemenets via watchers. The inverted controls can be a real pain sometimes. And watch out for obelisks cutting you off from your teammates, if they dont cut you in half first!

[Boczek121]

I hope they'll make malevelon creek vets cry
on diff 5

[ChaosSwarm]

How difficult would the Illuminate be?
Well if you find the bots hard or annoying then the squids are going to be far worse.
Snipers
Teleportation
Shields
Disruption mechanics

[Underfell Sans]

devs said themself long ago. level 9 on OG bots with Malevelon creek makes the illuminate level 4 seem easy

[LoveTruffle]

Publicado originalmente por Underfell Sans:

devs said themself long ago. level 9 on OG bots with Malevelon creek makes the illuminate level 4 seem easy

The devs aren't very good judges of gameplay based on their own gameplay videos, but hopefully they will provide a unique experience.