Heavy Devastators should be nerfed

[Belitval]

They are just anbearable to deal with. Their guns are too accurate. And with that rate of fire it's just lethal. "Just throw a grenade at them, bro" - yeah, right. Throwing a grenade takes atleast 2 seconds. This stupid ****** can kill you 4 times by this time. And often they need more than one grenade, because they are stupidly tanky. And I am okay with them being tanky, but their guns are just insane.

[Tavio]

i would be up for it getting nerfed in one of two ways:
1) its accuracy over a range of 50+ be reduced, ive gotten headshotted by them over 100ms distance
or
2) their shield should be destroyable by heavy weaponry (quasar/recoiless/eat) as ours is, they should not be able to survive one of those shots.

both would be good too

[Katitoff]

A wave of denial inc, but:

Railgun.

[Malidictus]

Originally posted by gachi is manly:

If anything maybe just a slight increase to the time between their volleys, but if they remain unchanged I wouldn't be upset.

Yeah, they do need to give us more time to respond. Right now, I basically have to "trade" with Heavy Devastators because they're always shooting, it feels like.

[8Squirrels]

Originally posted by dyra55:

Originally posted by 8Squirrels:

Can you shoot it off with a regular AR or do you need explosive damage?

Yes you can, it takes a bunch of shots but it's only light armour

Nice! Good info

[FkYoSht]

My problem with them is how many consecutive head shots they get. Ive died to 4+ consecutive head shots in the span of a second. They should have dispersion applied to that gun because ITS A ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ GATLING GUN.

[AnemoneMeer]

Ballistic Shield.

I can stand in front of like 8 of them and pick them off one by one *without taking damage*. I can just crouch in front of them, stay there, and just exist in that state for as long as I need to. And I can shoot them or grenade them.

Different kits work against different enemies. I am the Heavier Devastator with my Ballistic Shield and Defender, and wreck them. My teammates with a Quasar and a Shield Generator Backpack are not equip to handle them.

[Explodium]

I'd say they're more buggy than OP.

I've had instances where their gun will clip through their torsos sideways in order to shoot at me. With that big ass shield, they should have a massive blindspot, but they'll just defy physics in order to get ya.

Not to mention they have a habit of shooting through terrain, sometimes even spawning inside rocks.

[Malidictus]

Originally posted by AnemoneMeer:

I can stand in front of like 8 of them and pick them off one by one *without taking damage*. I can just crouch in front of them, stay there, and just exist in that state for as long as I need to. And I can shoot them or grenade them.

Right, but that only works in ideal circumstances. If you're fighting only Heavy Devastators and they all neatly lined up so they're always in front, sure. What if you get flanked? "Just don't get flanked." OK, what about melee enemies like Jetpackers and Berserkers? "Kill them first." OK, what about Rocket Devastators? Or Rocket Troopers? Or regular troopers throwing grenades?

I'm arguing with myself, obviously, but these are real things that have happened to me trying to use the Ballistic Shield. It protects from one thing and one thing only - laser shots. Automatons bring a lot more to the table besides laser shots.

[FkYoSht]

Originally posted by AnemoneMeer:

Ballistic Shield.

I can stand in front of like 8 of them and pick them off one by one *without taking damage*. I can just crouch in front of them, stay there, and just exist in that state for as long as I need to. And I can shoot them or grenade them.

Different kits work against different enemies. I am the Heavier Devastator with my Ballistic Shield and Defender, and wreck them. My teammates with a Quasar and a Shield Generator Backpack are not equip to handle them.

Any Rocket Devastator/rocket bot completely ♥♥♥♥♥ this up. Ive tried. Its great in a vacuum but doesnt work most games.

[dyra55]

Originally posted by Explodium:

I'd say they're more buggy than OP.

I've had instances where their gun will clip through their torsos sideways in order to shoot at me. With that big ass shield, they should have a massive blindspot, but they'll just defy physics in order to get ya.

Remind me of how Factory Striders can clip their heads with laser miniguns into textures to shoot you through terrain

[FkYoSht]

Ill say it again. Nerf Heavy/Rocket Devastators

[AnemoneMeer]

Originally posted by FkYoSht:

Originally posted by AnemoneMeer:

Ballistic Shield.

I can stand in front of like 8 of them and pick them off one by one *without taking damage*. I can just crouch in front of them, stay there, and just exist in that state for as long as I need to. And I can shoot them or grenade them.

Different kits work against different enemies. I am the Heavier Devastator with my Ballistic Shield and Defender, and wreck them. My teammates with a Quasar and a Shield Generator Backpack are not equip to handle them.

Any Rocket Devastator/rocket bot completely ♥♥♥♥♥ this up. Ive tried. Its great in a vacuum but doesnt work most games.

Works extremely well with some awareness and use of the grenade pistol. I succeed with it on diff 9. But I'm an experienced shield player from.... many games really. I am that crazy person who brings a greatshield to Malenia in Elden Ring and wins.

Fortified Heavy Armor + target prioritization. Crouch + fortified gives you massive explosion resist. Taking down rockets first means you aren't getting nuked. Playing terrain and angles keeps you alive. I have three teammates behind me, if I'm getting flanked through my team, that raises a lot of questions.

[Mad Marduk]

Stun grenades can be your best friend if you're pinned down by devastators. Hit cover, toss the stun from behind cover, pop out and drop them. Or to put it another way "stop, drop, shut'em down, open up shop"

[joeredner]

It sometimes feels like they can shoot around corners and they have precognition to know when you will be coming around a corner.

[FkYoSht]

Originally posted by AnemoneMeer:

Works extremely well with some awareness and use of the grenade pistol. I succeed with it on diff 9. But I'm an experienced shield player from.... many games really. I am that crazy person who brings a greatshield to Malenia in Elden Ring and wins.

Fortified Heavy Armor + target prioritization. Crouch + fortified gives you massive explosion resist. Taking down rockets first means you aren't getting nuked. Playing terrain and angles keeps you alive. I have three teammates behind me, if I'm getting flanked through my team, that raises a lot of questions.

I mostly play with randoms so this wouldn't work for me. Glad it does for you tho