Joel is the perfect example of an awful Reddit DND 5e Game Master

[Gr00vy]

All the hallmarks are there.

1) Rail roads you into his version of the story, despite whatever efforts you take
2) retaliates against you for struggling against it in the first place
3) thinks the game is Game Master vs Players

Joel needs to read some AngryGM on what it means to be a good Game Master.

[Sir Tontonolous]

Publicado originalmente por BigJ:

Publicado originalmente por Oops All Eagles:

A lot of redditors in here coping. Reddit GMs are awful. They're the epitome of dunning krugers. They don't know how to host a game, nor do they have the intellect or creativity to do so.

That's why so much pressure on "GOTTA FORCE THE M ON MY STORY BRO", because the content they make is so sparse, and their creativity so thin, that any deviation from the Chatgpt generated script that they have, they can't improvise or have anything prepared other than that.

They are the worst of the worst.

That and they're usually power hungry and super authoritarian. Just loathsome people in general.

You are making a big mistake associating railroad dms with a lack of ability.

It's different styles, similar to games both have pros and cons.

A more railroad story will alwyas have a more long term and cohesive narrative than sandbox dming. You simply cannot prepare enough "what ifs" to come close to it.

It's simply personal preference, sometimes you prefer something more dm drive, sometimes you prefer to have your sandbox with your group.

Similarly Joel has a pretty determined storyline to follow and as such there's things we will struggle with, we will easily overcome or fail, all a part of thr bigger plan.

It took 75 posts before someone finally gave the correct answer to this debacle.

It's personal preference. That's it. That's as simple as it gets. Some people like big sandboxes where you can do whatever you want and go wherever you want, and some people like a linear story where every detail is planned out from the start. I regularly run sessions where I plan out damn near everything and I haven't received complaints, because the group I do that with enjoys that sorta style.

If you hate being railroaded, then go find a group that does sandboxes. If you get bored of having an effectively directionless campaign, go find a group that does linear stories. Everyone can be happy, and nobody needs to argue about what is the ''''correct'''' way to dm, because much to everyone's surprise, there isn't a method of dming that will please everyone.

[Wolfguarde]

Publicado originalmente por Oops All Eagles:

Publicado originalmente por Key:

I don't entirely get the "reddit" part of the insult, are reddit GMs particularly bad, or?

Reddit is a special kind of sub human, yes.

The irony of this statement being posted in a steam forum is rich.

[アンジェル]

Publicado originalmente por Oops All Eagles:

Publicado originalmente por Key:

I don't entirely get the "reddit" part of the insult, are reddit GMs particularly bad, or?

Reddit is a special kind of sub human, yes.

Is that not another word for fabricator?

[Axis of Lint]

Publicado originalmente por アンジェル:

Publicado originalmente por Oops All Eagles:

Reddit is a special kind of sub human, yes.

Is that not another word for fabricator?

No. A fabricator is (most commonly) a person, or machine, that assembles components into a larger whole.

It can also mean, someone who invents things or the purposes of (usually) deceit, often associated with criminality such as counterfeiting, although this usage is much less common in my experience. Fabrication as a noun with the same general meaning is much more common.

Neither of those apply to anything that the poster wrote.

[Qua2ar]

Game Master vs Players is what most do though.

[hotmatrixx]

Publicado originalmente por Queltis:

Publicado originalmente por Oops All Eagles:

That's why so much pressure on "GOTTA FORCE THE M ON MY STORY BRO"

If you're not interested in the story that the GM has in mind, and are fully planning to disrupt it to the annoyance of everyone else who is looking forward to it, why are you even at their table?

"To Disrupt It"
Dun dun dun..

[Sanglaine]

Jack-o-lantern. Coincidence? I think not. Lets all dress in halloween to counter this.

[deimos]

mans herding hundreds of thousands of cats, give him a break sometimes you just need to buy time with a meaningless order till the next important one is set up, far as i can tell the defence orders are basically interim jingling keys for people

[Mildly Nuclear]

This isn't actually DnD you clown, go farm somewhere else.

[Good Old Jim]

Honestly its a strange paradox. The games pretty good (for the most part) but the Devs seem mostly brain dead. (At least the ones dealing with the public). Thank Super Earth for all the unsung heros who keep their heads down and keep the game chugging along.

[Sanglaine]

Publicado originalmente por Mildly Nuclear:

This isn't actually DnD you clown, go farm somewhere else.

Get a sense of humor.

No wait... you probably have one.

nevermind. Hat in time, I gotta play it.

[Gr00vy]

The bad gms are absolutely seething in this thread.

Like I said, read angrygm's posts on being a good gm if you wanna do more than just posture about holding people hostage in your games while simultaneously deluding yourself that they enjoy it, and aren't just putting up with you because they have to (since there are always more players to gms)

[hotmatrixx]

Publicado originalmente por Oops All Eagles:

The bad gms are absolutely seething in this thread.

Like I said, read angrygm's posts on being a good gm if you wanna do more than just posture about holding people hostage in your games while simultaneously deluding yourself that they enjoy it, and aren't just putting up with you because they have to (since there are always more players to gms)

R there?
See I'd rather DM; but I feel like i'd suck at it. Not knowing ♥♥♥♥ about D&D doesn't help.

[MadKiefer]

Publicado originalmente por Rhudda:

This isn't a TTRPG.

Sort of is. There are other systems than DND that use no to little stats. And Scifi. Etc.

[mweaver776]

Oh Gawd. People get off the Wha Wha train. Plenty of rewards for an average player. I like what happening. Keep it up Joel. Send in the Forces. Run us over. So we can fight ON SUPER EARTH. I'd like to see some maps of Super Earth to fight on.