Anyone else feel like the difficulty can get kind of ridiculous?

[TrulyGrimm]

I see so much content of people soloing Helldive difficulty with all these tips and strategies yet when I try it myself it's just constant death after death after death. Before the comments of "Git Gud" or "Skill issue" come through, ya not valid. That's not advice, that's not constructive feedback I can build off of. I still expect to see that comment type though. "Get in a squad!" My regular teams don't play all the time, and I never have any luck with public matchmaking. I have never gotten a good team through public matchmaking. Ever. So my only option at this point is to play solo when my regulars are unavailable. But I need higher difficulty resources to continue progressing. Yet I drop in to even the lowest high-end difficulty of 7 and can't manage to get a single super sample or objective before I just get killed into mission failure. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, there's no feedback, only explosions and frustration. Cover never works cuz they surround me, or just shoot so many rockets that I get knocked out of my cover anyways. 10 hulks, so many walking factories and the most hated devastators of all time. So, any actual offers of feedback and help will be appreciated.

[Kribmeister]

I know this isn't helpful either, but my experiences soloing high difficulties has been more or less exactly the same as yours. The tinfoil hat part in me wants to think some of the content creators are using some "extra help" to make the enemies less aggressive or have less encounters because their games always seem like cozy Sunday walk in a park.

[[₵Ð₲] Amon Gus]

Actually... as long as you know how to play and you play with people capable of playing as a team, the game is relatively simple. The game becomes tough when you have players with you who do whatever they want (especially against automatons).

There are rules, strategies, effective equipment... if you play by the rules, it's easy.

[CopperTear]

There's a fair amount of RNG and luck involved in each match. Sometimes they even have bases on top of the extraction point. Sometimes there are jamming towers that overlap an entire region of the map, etc.
You can learn to sneak and dodge and manipulate encounters, but you can't do much about how the map loads.

[Belzibae]

all i know is that everything is fine until 10 hulks with flamethrowers are in the extraction zone but is fun it makes me feel like a burnt marshmello

[That person]

The enter key is your friend

[The22nd]

Just join a group. I don't know why you're acting like you're above randoms. Clearly, you're not good enough to solo so what other choice do you have.

[Lesurous]

Mission difficulty varies, two missions on the same difficulty can have different challenges and obstacles thrown at you by the AI game master. That's one of the reasons you see content creators solo harder difficulties, because they upload the missions they succeed. Success is not guaranteed nor should be expected solo'ing missions at the harder difficulties.


As for actual tips, you need to learn situational awareness and to start avoiding patrols, as well as build an innate understanding for threat assessment. It's also recommended to intentionally trigger drops/breaches in areas where you can abuse the terrain to funnel the enemy and set up kill zones. I.e. triggering a bug breach in the center of an objective location can let you use the lane ways many of them have, the Upload Data to Relay obj is a prime example of good terrain to abuse, triggering enemy reinforcements for them to spawn on the high ground can let you guarantee the majority of enemies have only one path to take towards you.

Biggest tip of them all is to be willing to retreat when a locale is just too hot, EAT-17s are excellent for this as it relieves the pressure of losing equipment, letting you deal with armored threats until you're able to rearm.


Oh, and pay attention to the planet you're on. The biome has a major impact on the value of your stratagems, i.e. sentry guns and jungle don't mix, smoke stratagems on open flat land is exemplary against bots, etc.

[Sweetrollthief]

I am still new and learning, but it seems the key to success at difficulty 7-9 is managing aggro. It's not explained very well in game but i have been reading some guides on it. Certain events will trigger more enemy patrols for example. In public groups at difficulty 7 if people run off randomly it quickly spirals out of control because so many enemies are spawned in at one time.

[antique_nova]

Originally posted by Lesurous:

Mission difficulty varies, two missions on the same difficulty can have different challenges and obstacles thrown at you by the AI game master. That's one of the reasons you see content creators solo harder difficulties, because they upload the missions they succeed. Success is not guaranteed nor should be expected solo'ing missions at the harder difficulties.


As for actual tips, you need to learn situational awareness and to start avoiding patrols, as well as build an innate understanding for threat assessment. It's also recommended to intentionally trigger drops/breaches in areas where you can abuse the terrain to funnel the enemy and set up kill zones. I.e. triggering a bug breach in the center of an objective location can let you use the lane ways many of them have, the Upload Data to Relay obj is a prime example of good terrain to abuse, triggering enemy reinforcements for them to spawn on the high ground can let you guarantee the majority of enemies have only one path to take towards you.

Biggest tip of them all is to be willing to retreat when a locale is just too hot, EAT-17s are excellent for this as it relieves the pressure of losing equipment, letting you deal with armored threats until you're able to rearm.


Oh, and pay attention to the planet you're on. The biome has a major impact on the value of your stratagems, i.e. sentry guns and jungle don't mix, smoke stratagems on open flat land is exemplary against bots, etc.

This.

I'm one of those players who constantly carries my team and my team often lets me solo large parts of the map for them and they trust me not to die. (I still die to random ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ at times)

Also, the point of intentionally triggering enemy reinforcements isn't to create kill zones. It's to dump the enemy reinforcements into areas you don't give two ♥♥♥♥♥ about. So you can assault an objective that you don't want enemy reinforcements to pop up.

Also. wear the scout trailblazer armour. If you aren't, it makes a huge difference in stealth.

I can also guarantee you're not reading your map nearly anywhere near as often. You should literally be reading it once every minute at the very least to see where you're on the map and to make sure all enemies are at least 40m away from you.

I can also guarantee that you're aggroing things you don't need to.

You've seen a lot of videos, but most of them can't don't do full map clears without dying. I do it about 90% of the time.

Here's my channel where you can see. I encourage you to watch the 12 minute blitz mission. It'll help the most. You'll see how I bait the enemy into useless areas and how I give a far larger birth between me and the enemy. Because there's an insanely high chance that you didn't put enough distance or cover between you and the enemy, before you started shooting.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZBQAN31Vrr6qsPR-qhjUHw

One thing my videos don't mention is that I use scorcher as my primary against bots. It's the best primary by far them. Knocks back devastators and 2 shots striders to the front and kills berserkers insanely fast compared to most other weapons.

[Rroff]

There are quite a lot of tricks to doing helldive difficult solo which aren't necessarily apparent if just watching a video of someone doing it like choice of boosters and using armour with stealth attributes, etc. there is also some timing and time factor elements to it - if you do things both too slowly or too quickly difficultly can be affected - especially if trying to extract with the clock running down.

Personally I don't care overly for tactics though and just solo using the armour with stamina and sprint perks and just keep moving - can make some objectives a bit hairy though but I don't generally bother playing solo as it doesn't seem like a good investment of time for the effort it takes and chances of totally wiping.

[Katitoff]

Experience.

Being unapproachable is the whole selling point of Helldive.

You're supposed to move to higher difficulty, when present one starts to feel too easy.

If you don't feel like 8 is easy, you don't belong on 9.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by TrulyGrimm:

Anyone else feel like the difficulty can get kind of ridiculous?
I see so much content of people soloing Helldive difficulty with all these tips and strategies yet when I try it myself it's just constant death after death after death. Before the comments of "Git Gud" or "Skill issue" come through, ya not valid. That's not advice, that's not constructive feedback I can build off of. I still expect to see that comment type though. "Get in a squad!" My regular teams don't play all the time, and I never have any luck with public matchmaking. I have never gotten a good team through public matchmaking. Ever. So my only option at this point is to play solo when my regulars are unavailable. But I need higher difficulty resources to continue progressing. Yet I drop in to even the lowest high-end difficulty of 7 and can't manage to get a single super sample or objective before I just get killed into mission failure. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, there's no feedback, only explosions and frustration. Cover never works cuz they surround me, or just shoot so many rockets that I get knocked out of my cover anyways. 10 hulks, so many walking factories and the most hated devastators of all time. So, any actual offers of feedback and help will be appreciated.

First: stop whining. It makes you and your post the opposite of sympathic.

Second: learn the basic playstyles such as stealth, and using the right tools for the right job.

It is the same like the commando bunker missions on Helldive, where a party can finish it in around 5 minutes where the extraction is the longest part of the thing.

Have patient. And learn stealth. With stealth all Helldive missions, whether solo or in party are more easier.

[The Dess 2023 GOTY Edition]

Originally posted by TrulyGrimm:

I see so much content of people soloing Helldive difficulty with all these tips and strategies yet when I try it myself it's just constant death after death after death. Before the comments of "Git Gud" or "Skill issue" come through, ya not valid. That's not advice, that's not constructive feedback I can build off of. I still expect to see that comment type though. "Get in a squad!" My regular teams don't play all the time, and I never have any luck with public matchmaking. I have never gotten a good team through public matchmaking. Ever. So my only option at this point is to play solo when my regulars are unavailable. But I need higher difficulty resources to continue progressing. Yet I drop in to even the lowest high-end difficulty of 7 and can't manage to get a single super sample or objective before I just get killed into mission failure. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, there's no feedback, only explosions and frustration. Cover never works cuz they surround me, or just shoot so many rockets that I get knocked out of my cover anyways. 10 hulks, so many walking factories and the most hated devastators of all time. So, any actual offers of feedback and help will be appreciated.

Ok. I felt sorry for you and will offer your my tip on how to GIT GUUD.

Play Terminid solo missions on level 6 with Terminids. Do not do mission objectives, focus solely on deleting bugs. Do this with every weapon in your arsenal, experiment with combos and strats. You will start to notice things and what works and what doesn't. This is how I learned to be good at the game. I mostly just applied what I learned and used it on the bots. Bots require that you play tactically and not just john rambo your way across the map.

As for gathering rare samples, you will actually have more luck fighting bots than bugs solo. Keep looking for pub groups so at least they can help carry samples or serve as cannon fodder long enough for you to extract with the goods.

[Ursa_Luna]

Just like the first game, people who did higher difficulties solo were rare, but they DID exist! And it worked a lot like this game. It requires a lot more finesse than anything else. Lots of smoke, stuns, mostly stealth, either using decisive strikes or none at all (the in-between fighting is where the enemy is strongest), using distractions (enemies will go to grenade explosions or some other projectiles), and various other tricks.

Honestly though? Not worth it, the game is just so much funner with chaos in groups.

Groups in lvl 7+ seem to have better, more communicative players that are pretty fun to game with.

[sweng]

I can only give you a few tips
Always look at the map to know enemy location. Treat patrol as a threat, do not engage because they probably call dropship the moment they see you. If their eye glow in red, immediately dive opposite way, they will not notice you but sometime will send small unit to investigate.
Stay in cover only get you pinned in that cover if without teammate to help so move from cover to cover and away from enemy. Best if you can find slope go up and down, this can temporary get away with their LOS and laser. If it is flat land run diagonally from the direction of enemy and dive repeatedly to mess with their aim although not always work. Use corner as choke point and dont try to fight heavy and rocket devastator face to face. Stun them or impact grenade or even airstrike them. To take down hulk, must use strategem or teammate unless you are very far away and have clear shot and able to take them down fast because the rocket hulk can still kill youin second across the map. Drop ship take time to come and drop, so if you dont think you are at good position, just run and airstrike or orbital strike them