Ricochet bullets, and deal with armor

[DavidVC]

Hello, i have seriously problems to deal with armors, special with chargers. And some robots.

The main problem its weapons like autocannon, i try to aim head, and... because it have huge legs... i hit on them and bullets ricochet on him. I even try to hit in the front zone and over the 80% (aprox. and think its more) of the bullets ricochet, with grenade launch its WORST, you know... ricochet grenades can kill teamates... And even with other bugs and automatons deflect much more the bullets. Dont know what the hell its happen with this weapon...

I have try to use weapons like the laser cannon on a charger and... It seems like he's laughing at me. In me experiments to know the damage i can do with the laser canon, i try to focus head, and later the legs... it took a HUGE time to do some damage and i get killed a lot because that time waiting. Not sure if i do some damage, because i try it with more people, and they just kill him from the weak point.

There is a youtube video or something to see how to fight armors and with what weapons?. I already try some videos but... i think it was not the correct videos...

So... the main problem its to deal with chargers FASTER, and... berserkers... not joking, i dont know why, but it takes me a lot of time to kill berserkers, and dont even feels armored...

[Meatbug]

If you want to kill a charger with an autocannon, shoot his butt, the exposed part.
Afaik it's 4 hits or so with an autocannon, then the sack is destroyed and he'll bleed out.
Don't fire on his armor, cause that won't do a thing.

Quasar, EAT and Recoilless Rifle shots to the head of a charger should kill him instantly.

[~KeNnEtH~]

The laser cannon can only penetrate light armor.

The charger head is heavy armor.

You can switch to something like the Quasar Cannon or the Expendable Anti-Tank instead.

Those can kill chargers with direct shot to head.

There are light, medium and heavy armor categories so the weapons' effect on a specific armored part will differ based on what armor it has and what armor penetration the weapon has.

[Shrapnel]

Quasar cannon...nuff said

[Katitoff]

AC is medium armor counter.
You need to let charger pass you and shoot in the back of the leg(real weakspot) or butt(not a weakspot, but east to hit target).

To kill chargers frontally you need rockets or quasar, dedicated AT weapons.

[Vespertellino]

Originally posted by ~KeNnEtH~:

The laser cannon can only penetrate light armor.

The charger head is heavy armor.

You can switch to something like the Quasar Cannon or the Expendable Anti-Tank instead.

Those can kill chargers with direct shot to head.

There are light, medium and heavy armor categories so the weapons' effect on a specific armored part will differ based on what armor it has and what armor penetration the weapon has.

Laser was buffed to med pen I believe

[Vespertellino]

Bro how are you 90hrs into the game and are asking how to deal with armor D: did you play diff 2 all the time?

[Razer]

You can also let them charge past you and hit them in the fleshy bits. Tip here is to not dodge out of the way, but just walk/run. They are slow at making turns and a dodge (prone) actually gets you hit often if you time it wrong.

[DavidVC]

Originally posted by ~KeNnEtH~:

The laser cannon can only penetrate light armor.

The charger head is heavy armor.

You can switch to something like the Quasar Cannon or the Expendable Anti-Tank instead.

Those can kill chargers with direct shot to head.

There are light, medium and heavy armor categories so the weapons' effect on a specific armored part will differ based on what armor it has and what armor penetration the weapon has.

Thanks a lot, to all. The stratagems dont show "anti tank" or medium armor, or mabey im blind... sure some like spear say anti tank, but others seems confused to me like railgun, because i remember kill (before nerf) some armored bugs like charger and bile titan.

Originally posted by Vespertellino:

Bro how are you 90hrs into the game and are asking how to deal with armor D: did you play diff 2 all the time?

I just play with random players and shot with a weapon i think it work and yell "FOR DEMOCRACY!", but mabey it because another play kill it or i kill that "thing" i just think its because of the weapon, this way i was thinking mabey the laser canon do something... but as kenneth say, it not work. But again... It's psychological, but now i preffer to ask.

[Vespertellino]

Oh yeah I mean I don't shame you for asking, I just find it odd that it took you so long O:

Originally posted by DavidVC:

I just play with random players and shot with a weapon i think it work and yell "FOR DEMOCRACY!", but mabey it because another play kill it or i kill that "thing" i just think its because of the weapon, this way i was thinking mabey the laser canon do something... but as kenneth say, it not work. But again... It's psychological, but now i preffer to ask.

[DavidVC]

Originally posted by Vespertellino:

Oh yeah I mean I don't shame you for asking, I just find it odd that it took you so long O:

Originally posted by DavidVC:

I just play with random players and shot with a weapon i think it work and yell "FOR DEMOCRACY!", but mabey it because another play kill it or i kill that "thing" i just think its because of the weapon, this way i was thinking mabey the laser canon do something... but as kenneth say, it not work. But again... It's psychological, but now i preffer to ask.

Dont worry ;)

BTW, now i realize that... people that see me trying to kill a charger with a laser cannon... sure thinking i have some problem XD

[Gnome_Bandit]

Chargers die to one-recoiless rocket to the face. The Quasar doesn't do as much damage because it's a "compromise" weapon. Autocannon is more for clearing devastators/medium-armored enemies though it is theoretically possible to deal with heavies if you hammer a weakspot for enough HP. Kinda like cutting a steak with a butter knife- possible but not really ideal. Still an autocannon does give you a viable option for any threat you come across with enough rounds.

[ulzgoroth]

Quasar should work but I highly recommend EAT for upper-level bugs, it's easy to operate, shuts down chargers very nicely, and can be used to solo bile titans. (You'll need, of course, to fend off pretty much anything smaller than a Charger with other weapons...)

If you only occasionally get chargers, orbital rail cannon also works like a charm. If you get a second charger while it's on cooldown, well, that's rough.

Originally posted by Gnome Bandit:

Chargers die to one-recoiless rocket to the face. The Quasar doesn't do as much damage because it's a "compromise" weapon. Autocannon is more for clearing devastators/medium-armored enemies though it is theoretically possible to deal with heavies if you hammer a weakspot for enough HP. Kinda like cutting a steak with a butter knife- possible but not really ideal. Still an autocannon does give you a viable option for any threat you come across with enough rounds.

Against bots, all heavy bots have a medium-armor target that AC is good against if you can hit them. (Hulk faces are a bit of a challenge shot with it.) And the common devastators have a bunch of medium armor area.

Against bugs, medium armor penetration is mostly wasted. However, the AC doing explosive damage does help it against spewer abdomens (pop in 3 shots usually), charger tails (I've heard ~3 shots but can't attest) and maybe against titan underparts. Plus if you angle right you can use it to close bug holes. It's not as convincing, but it's pretty handy especially if you get a lot of spewers.

Other than the hive guardians, bots pretty much jump directly from light to heavy armor.

[=Duke=]

I still find it funny that 1 shot to a heavily armoured Charger head insta kills them, but it takes 4 shots to the "unarmored" location to kill it. Wtf is that?

[Vintorez]

Originally posted by =LeDuke=:

I still find it funny that 1 shot to a heavily armoured Charger head insta kills them, but it takes 4 shots to the "unarmored" location to kill it. Wtf is that?

Difference between weakness and vulnerability. Head is weak, but that's why it's armored so it's not very vulnerable. Under-butt is vulnerable to even small arms fire, but not nearly as vital biologically.

[Catteus Of Mars]

you stand with your back against big rock.... charger comes in you dodge to side charger is stunned aim laser cannon on charger knee it removes the armor now when charger gets up continue shooting knee that now has no armor (looks like green wound) will kill the charger really fast. (dont really need laser cannon for that i mean you can kill it with pistol but laser cannon is bit faster :D)