E/MG-101 HMG Emplacement Should be able to break through heavy armor.

[Fish]

Title.

It's not the best Strategem out the there, especially in the higher difficulties. But if someone is able to call one in and get on it before getting overwhelmed, i feel they deserve to have some extra penetration power for doing so.

It's also a bit disheartening getting all set up and you got a charger coming right for you and you can't do nothing about it (even though you are using two HMGs lol).

Edit: someone gave good input on what i was trying to convey: "not doing armor penetration but armor damage, it should be able to chip away at heavy armor."

[Xorberax]

That’s the emplacement one right? At least give it a little bit of high armor penetration, just enough to not be completely useless. It’s already a bad stratagem to use over an automated emplacement, since it actually reduces your effective firepower by eliminating both yourself and a separate turret firing on its own.

[Fish]

Originally posted by Xorberax:

That’s the emplacement one right? At least give it a little bit of high armor penetration, just enough to not be completely useless. It’s already a bad stratagem to use over an automated emplacement, since it actually reduces your effective firepower by eliminating both yourself and a separate turret firing on its own.

yeah totally agree and if they don't want to do that, at least give us one that has autocannons on it. They are already doing that with the mechs.

[The_Dipl0mat]

Yeah I gotta agree, it'd be really fun n' thematic as well. Especially if enemies don't target an unmanned one

Imagine being able to hop onto one, and clear a decent chunk of enemies out including chargers before getting overwhelmed yourself

[Xorberax]

Originally posted by Fish:

Originally posted by Xorberax:

That’s the emplacement one right? At least give it a little bit of high armor penetration, just enough to not be completely useless. It’s already a bad stratagem to use over an automated emplacement, since it actually reduces your effective firepower by eliminating both yourself and a separate turret firing on its own.

yeah totally agree and if they don't want to do that, at least give us one that has autocannons on it. They are already doing that with the mechs.

Yea that would be nice

[achiIIesHeal]

Then why would you use it over a mech that's mobile? I think it needs something else too

[Fish]

Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:

Yeah I gotta agree, it'd be really fun n' thematic as well. Especially if enemies don't target an unmanned one

Imagine being able to hop onto one, and clear a decent chunk of enemies out including chargers before getting overwhelmed yourself

And seeing the armor of the charger being blasted off as it charging you would be a cool spectacle.

[The_Dipl0mat]

Originally posted by Fish:

Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:

Yeah I gotta agree, it'd be really fun n' thematic as well. Especially if enemies don't target an unmanned one

Imagine being able to hop onto one, and clear a decent chunk of enemies out including chargers before getting overwhelmed yourself

And seeing the armor of the charger being blasted off as it charging you would be a cool spectacle.

That'd be so awesome

[Fish]

Originally posted by achiIIesHeal:

Then why would you use it over a mech that's mobile? I think it needs something else too

I use it more as it has a faster cool down and can be used multiple times instead of just two like the mech.

[ulzgoroth]

It's an HMG, though, it has absolutely no business defeating tank-level armor.

If it were instead packing the turret version of the autocannon, well, that'd be different.

[Mosey]

It certainly needs something to be competitive since as things stand it's just worse than any similar pick.

For an emplacement HMG it should hit harder than one you can lug along with you wherever you go.

Plus it's massively vulnerable so you are nearly certain to die while using it given that it doesn't even tickle a charger that can and will one shot you. Since it's an emplacement, you automatically go to the top of the aggro list too so they WILL be coming for you first.

[Ashe]

Originally posted by achiIIesHeal:

Then why would you use it over a mech that's mobile? I think it needs something else too

Cooldown and uses.

[Vespertellino]

Good point
It doesn't do enough with how hard it is to use

[ulzgoroth]

Originally posted by Mosey:

Plus it's massively vulnerable so you are nearly certain to die while using it given that it doesn't even tickle a charger that can and will one shot you. Since it's an emplacement, you automatically go to the top of the aggro list too so they WILL be coming for you first.

You won't be killed by a charger if you've got a competent AT shooter standing beside you to stop them. An AC or rocket turret might also suffice. (Most weapons don't reach their potential solo.)

[adobo]

If you need to drop the heavy emplacement to deal with heavy armor, you've messed up.

[C4NNED]

The HMG turret as well as the portable one should be able to deal with bot gunships. Has anyone tested to confirm this too btw to make sure it isnt the case.