End of life plan?

[Lunático]

Figured it was relevant since there is a huge campaign going literally named "Stop Killing games" in response to Ubisoft ending service for The Crew, possibly making the game unplayable forever.

Did the devs at Arrowhead mention anywhere if there is an end of life plan for Helldivers 1/2? what happens if/when sony ever decides to pull the plug on the servers several years from now?

[Sanglaine]

Originally posted by M200Chan:

What OP is saying, is they'd simply like to know if the "minimum amount of loss" is "the entire game" or not. While I'm definitely getting my money's worth out of this game, I'd like to know if it'll be playable at all in the future.

This is a pretty great way to say it. I already got my money's worth too, but I would just like to know if I'll be able to play it in the future. It would be nice to have an answer.

[Hobbes]

Originally posted by Sanglaine:

I still play old multiplayer games from 10years+ (PSO:BB) so I am not sure why you would say that. Maybe you just haven't thought about what you will be playing in 10 years? You might be extremely disappointed with gaming and just 'want to go back to that game you loved from years ago' I dunno.

I still play old multiplayer games, some even older than 10 years, however for Live Service Games you sometimes have to accept that they will have a sunset.

In 10 years I hope to be able to play Star Citizen, they might be close to getting out of Alpha then.

[Sanglaine]

Originally posted by Hobbes:

I still play old multiplayer games, some even older than 10 years, however for Live Service Games you sometimes have to accept that they will have a sunset.

In 10 years I hope to be able to play Star Citizen, they might be close to getting out of Alpha then.

Yes I understand that most people have accepted that as the norm, but I am curious why? Game developers can patch a game to be playable without a server. It's not really even a hard thing to do in a lot of cases. Sometimes it's as easy as redirecting to a loopback address.

[RobeRonin]

i mean hell divers 1 is still active ? and i hope im not playing this game years from now thats a terrifying thought lol you realise in the next few years all this is going to be so far obsolete its not funny yer ? bro we are starting to mass produce quantum machines and super AI`s and technology has been on a steady increasingly growing speed ! no one plays games from when i was a child and i remember putting plastic covers over my tv to make up half the visuals of a video games aint no one playing helldivers 2 in 5 years from now!

[Sanglaine]

Lostech really is going to be a thing.

[Hobbes]

Originally posted by RobeRonin:

i mean hell divers 1 is still active ? and i hope im not playing this game years from now thats a terrifying thought lol you realise in the next few years all this is going to be so far obsolete its not funny yer ? bro we are starting to mass produce quantum machines and super AI`s and technology has been on a steady increasingly growing speed ! no one plays games from when i was a child and i remember putting plastic covers over my tv to make up half the visuals of a video games aint no one playing helldivers 2 in 5 years from now!

Was that the Intellivision/Colecovision days?

Peak gaming, everything was about gameplay and not about graphics! /s

Fond memories though.

[donut32]

battleborn being shut down forever still stings. me and the other 6 people who still played it weep every evening.

[neock]

Originally posted by Eagle_of_Fire:

This is a PS exclusive.

do you even know you are on the discussion board for the game on steam, where the game is also available... making it NOT a PlayStation exclusive because its on steam??

[Lunático]

Originally posted by Hobbes:

Originally posted by Sanglaine:

I still play old multiplayer games from 10years+ (PSO:BB) so I am not sure why you would say that. Maybe you just haven't thought about what you will be playing in 10 years? You might be extremely disappointed with gaming and just 'want to go back to that game you loved from years ago' I dunno.

I still play old multiplayer games, some even older than 10 years, however for Live Service Games you sometimes have to accept that they will have a sunset.

In 10 years I hope to be able to play Star Citizen, they might be close to getting out of Alpha then.

That's the neat part, you don't have to accept it.
Sometimes a game is lucky enough to get someone dedicated enough to say "No." and thats how you get people keeping things alive like City of Heroes or Gigantic, its not always going to be ideal but its better than nothing.

Now what would make such efforts 1000% easier is if the developer were to be kind enough to give a community the tools to keep the game alive at some point rather than having to reverse engineer the server side of the game.

Anyone telling you that's impossible is being dense or purpose, or maybe they are just three Ubisoft reps in a trenchcoat, I dunno.

[Hobbes]

Originally posted by Lunático:

Originally posted by Hobbes:

I still play old multiplayer games, some even older than 10 years, however for Live Service Games you sometimes have to accept that they will have a sunset.

In 10 years I hope to be able to play Star Citizen, they might be close to getting out of Alpha then.

That's the neat part, you don't have to accept it.
Sometimes a game is lucky enough to get someone dedicated enough to say "No." and thats how you get people keeping things alive like City of Heroes or Gigantic, its not always going to be ideal but its better than nothing.

Now what would make such efforts 1000% easier is if the developer were to be kind enough to give a community the tools to keep the game alive at some point rather than having to reverse engineer the server side of the game.

Anyone telling you that's impossible is being dense or purpose, or maybe they are just three Ubisoft reps in a trenchcoat, I dunno.

I'm not implying it's impossible, but it's also not something that Arrowhead needs to prioritize now, 2 months after launch is it?

[Lunático]

Originally posted by Hobbes:

Originally posted by Lunático:

That's the neat part, you don't have to accept it.
Sometimes a game is lucky enough to get someone dedicated enough to say "No." and thats how you get people keeping things alive like City of Heroes or Gigantic, its not always going to be ideal but its better than nothing.

Now what would make such efforts 1000% easier is if the developer were to be kind enough to give a community the tools to keep the game alive at some point rather than having to reverse engineer the server side of the game.

Anyone telling you that's impossible is being dense or purpose, or maybe they are just three Ubisoft reps in a trenchcoat, I dunno.

I'm not implying it's impossible, but it's also not something that Arrowhead needs to prioritize now, 2 months after launch is it?

Why not? It's a hot topic. Why wait until after its too late?

[Jerubius]

Originally posted by Hobbes:

Originally posted by Sanglaine:

The problem is it will eventually not be alive. It relies on a central server to authenticate to. What happens when that server is shut down?

Reality is that you will be long done playing this game before that becomes an issue, if they keep the servers up for 10 years and stop changing or adding the game 6 years from now.

Not to mention the fact that gaming in general will have moved on most likely.

Possibly there will be Helldivers 3, in full VR with haptic body suits and smell-o-rama

So what?

I see plenty of games today struggling to figure out things that games had solved 10-20 years ago. Game preservation should have more of an effort put into it if for no other reason than to reduce the amount of backsliding the industry does.

[Queltis]

They'll probably just put the game into an automated cycle like HD1's and have the P2P service do the brunt of the work for people wanting to play multi-player.