HELLDIVERS™ 2

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ZTEQ Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:25pm
I badly need some tips on fighting bugs
After killing bots for a good 3+ weeks and doing 80% of my leveling in bot missions, I am now finding myself struggling to find a groove in bug missions. Prior to this I was having a lot of fun in 7+ difficulty in bot missions and doing very well.

I'm level 30 with basically all the stratagems, have the paid battle pass the includes sickle, and have enough premium currency to get another one (although im waiting for the new one to drop to see which one I want to get).

I tried to jump straight into 7 difficulty bug missions and maybe that was my issue, but I am constantly getting swarmed. The bots felt like a tactical mission with base breaches and such, but bugs just feel like non-stop running and kiting. I'm basically running while endlessly dealing with swarms until one of the bigger bugs kills me. I'm finding myself not having any time to even accomplish anything. Happening over and over.

Any tips for weapon load out? Strategems? I did love the arc thrower in the few bug missions I played prior to nerf, but I tried it and it doesn't feel even remotely as good at clearing packs anymore. Flamethrower still seems not so good either. Just really at a loss in bugs. At this point I'm almost ready to take a break for awhile until some missions are available that aren't bug missions.

Any tips greatly appreciated.
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SnowMew Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:30pm 
When I play with a group, we all tend to use Eagle Strike, Orbital Railgun, Shield and Quasar and the light stealth armour. The Stamina buff is a nice have too. Since keeping mobile is the key to surviving. Weapon wise I run a Slugger and Redeemer. Sometimes the JAR-5 or Scorcher. Though use the Redeemer for all the smaller bugs.

But keep as sleathly as you can, Dont engage with patrols if you dont have to. And if you if you do, kill them all as fast as you can. If you get bugholes and run away, a lot of the times more just spawn and you easily get overrun.

Just keep at it though. Its definitely doable solo, but a lot easier (For me at least) with a team.
Last edited by SnowMew; Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:31pm
asura Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:31pm 
At the moment the breaker incendiary is incredibly strong.
If you're struggling with antitank I recommend EATs (don't forget to hit them with the hellpod). You can bring this IN ADDITION TO the quasar \* if you need to. You can "juggle" the quasar with available EATs.

Fire damage was recently buffed which explains the breaker incendiary. Other flame producing items are pretty good, too.


The most important thing about bugs is you will get swarmed. You need to clear the adds (or have someone clear the adds) and/or rodeo clown the titans and chargers (to clear the adds) or you'll just be tripping over hunters, etc.

Always clear stalker/shrieker nests first if you see one. A couple of EATs will do the job from distance.

Alternatively use scorcher, etc, and shoot the ground to cause splash damage and clear adds but also damage some armored targets.

\* I have to say this or someone will start crying and scream "mUhh HigHER DIFIFUCLTIES qauSR OP"

DO NOT STARE AT YOUR FEET
This invites a head shot from even the smallest bug.
Echo2Omega Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:33pm 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opCS9vWSTy8

Just a guy soloing level 9's and offering advice.
Last edited by Echo2Omega; Apr 8, 2024 @ 5:09pm
EidolonBae Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:34pm 
My loadout is machine gun, autocannon and gatling sentry alongside the Recoilless Rifle with the punisher primary and senator secondary. the M+G sentries obliterate hordes whilst the Autocannon and RR clear armored targets, I've fully upgraded my sentries so ymmv, but I've no trouble against the bugs even on Helldive with this loadout.
Mosey Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:36pm 
Personally I find that Gatling turret is almost a must have for me since it can take out everything short of a charger on it's own. It's even pretty good versus flying enemies and can distract huge spawns long enough to get some range on the spawn.

I personally think hunters are more dangerous so I jam down a turret when I see a bug hole open and camp out with a quasar until I see a big bug pop out.

There are lots of other things you can try, but if you are getting overwhelmed by small bugs on the regular that's my suggestion.
gachi is manly Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:37pm 
Arc Thrower+laser rover and kiting. Deals with everything the bugs have except bile titans which is where 500kg bomb or railcannon/EAT come in (or both even, you've got enough horde clearing with arc+rover). Tons of primaries work alongside this loadout, depending on what gives you the most trouble (sickle for hunters, jar-5 for spewers, etc).

Quasar is nice too, but the above loadout trivializes the bugs for me. Even diff 9 is a breeze usually.

Arc thrower can handle chargers unless you're getting really overwhelmed. It will mini-stagger them on hit even when they're charging. And if you're hitting them with arc, it dramatically reduces their ability to change direction mid-charge.
Last edited by gachi is manly; Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:42pm
BiggieJohn Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:37pm 
First thing I do is look around the sky for the nearest flyer hive or shroom cloud. Call in mech suit. All my missiles are dedicated to destroying them. Use the machine gun to mop up the area. I do this every drop on 7+ bugs. I save the 2nd suit call in for tail end of the mission.
Last edited by BiggieJohn; Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:38pm
Originally posted by ZTEQ:
After killing bots for a good 3+ weeks and doing 80% of my leveling in bot missions, I am now finding myself struggling to find a groove in bug missions. Prior to this I was having a lot of fun in 7+ difficulty in bot missions and doing very well.

I'm level 30 with basically all the stratagems, have the paid battle pass the includes sickle, and have enough premium currency to get another one (although im waiting for the new one to drop to see which one I want to get).

I tried to jump straight into 7 difficulty bug missions and maybe that was my issue, but I am constantly getting swarmed. The bots felt like a tactical mission with base breaches and such, but bugs just feel like non-stop running and kiting. I'm basically running while endlessly dealing with swarms until one of the bigger bugs kills me. I'm finding myself not having any time to even accomplish anything. Happening over and over.

Any tips for weapon load out? Strategems? I did love the arc thrower in the few bug missions I played prior to nerf, but I tried it and it doesn't feel even remotely as good at clearing packs anymore. Flamethrower still seems not so good either. Just really at a loss in bugs. At this point I'm almost ready to take a break for awhile until some missions are available that aren't bug missions.

Any tips greatly appreciated.
I used to run the normal breaker before they nerfed, but my loadout now, which hasnt failed me, is breaker spraynpray or incendiary, autopistol, impact nades, orbital laser (mind you my whole ship module thing is fully upgraded), orbital railcannon strike, cluster bomb, and finally noob tuber for support weapon. for armor i rock the engineer one, so 2 extra nades. and let me tell you,on higher difficulties, you are going to have to run and gun regardless. id say challenging and above, moving is the name of the game. so for a booster always have someone with a stamina booster. really helps out.
junimai233 Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:43pm 
Well there's lot of combinations to it, but the popular option I usually see is:
500kg bomb or Eagle airstrike for chargers and bile titans
Eagle or Orbital cluster for bug breach clearing
Quasar Cannon for chargers and general medium and bughole clearing
Sickle, Defender, liberator, or breaker for general use
Redeemer for close range emergency

I think the most important thing is to keep your loadout balanced because you'd never know if the game would throw bile spewer or hunter swarm at you.
nizzemancer Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:45pm 
Originally posted by ZTEQ:
After killing bots for a good 3+ weeks and doing 80% of my leveling in bot missions, I am now finding myself struggling to find a groove in bug missions. Prior to this I was having a lot of fun in 7+ difficulty in bot missions and doing very well.

I'm level 30 with basically all the stratagems, have the paid battle pass the includes sickle, and have enough premium currency to get another one (although im waiting for the new one to drop to see which one I want to get).

I tried to jump straight into 7 difficulty bug missions and maybe that was my issue, but I am constantly getting swarmed. The bots felt like a tactical mission with base breaches and such, but bugs just feel like non-stop running and kiting. I'm basically running while endlessly dealing with swarms until one of the bigger bugs kills me. I'm finding myself not having any time to even accomplish anything. Happening over and over.

Any tips for weapon load out? Strategems? I did love the arc thrower in the few bug missions I played prior to nerf, but I tried it and it doesn't feel even remotely as good at clearing packs anymore. Flamethrower still seems not so good either. Just really at a loss in bugs. At this point I'm almost ready to take a break for awhile until some missions are available that aren't bug missions.

Any tips greatly appreciated.

A lot of them are easier to kill if you aim for the legs instead.

Brood Guards for example will still come after you for a while if you shoot their head off, but pop off 2 legs and they slow to a crawl, then pop a third and they die.

The slow ones with armor up front can be fooled into hunkering down, if you keep suppressing them you can just walk up on their side and blast them away.

If you have the incendiary breaker shotgun you can easily run around Chargers as they charge past you and then empty an entire clip in their butt and they often die, expensive but works in a pinch.

Take out Swarm nests from far away using the HEAT tubes so you won't have to deal with the fliers harassing you,

Personally I have the most trouble with the stalkers and how tanky and annoying they are.

Try not to get cornered and you should be fine. Turrets work great to distract a horde chasing you to give you some breathing room.

Remember the 5 D's Dodge Duck Dip Dive and Dodge.

Oh and if you see one of them spitting orange stuff that's them calling in reinforcements and a breach will happen nearby.

Oh and I can warmly recommend the "don't die 50% of the times you take lethal damage"-armor, it's saved my butt a ton.
Last edited by nizzemancer; Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:56pm
Originally posted by junimai233:
Well there's lot of combinations to it, but the popular option I usually see is:
500kg bomb or Eagle airstrike for chargers and bile titans
Eagle or Orbital cluster for bug breach clearing
Quasar Cannon for chargers and general medium and bughole clearing
Sickle, Defender, liberator, or breaker for general use
Redeemer for close range emergency

I think the most important thing is to keep your loadout balanced because you'd never know if the game would throw bile spewer or hunter swarm at you.

exactly why i rock an orbital railcannon, for the titians and chargers, orbital lasers for those hairy situations, cluster bomb for general purpose, and nade launcher for bug holes. i feel the 500kg bomb sucks, in fact, i feel most of the stratagems kill radius needs huge improvement. even with that one module that increases indirect explosion damage, AND an extra salvo, for the straight up explosive strats, they feel super underwhelming
nizzemancer Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:49pm 
Originally posted by junimai233:
Well there's lot of combinations to it, but the popular option I usually see is:
500kg bomb or Eagle airstrike for chargers and bile titans
Eagle or Orbital cluster for bug breach clearing
Quasar Cannon for chargers and general medium and bughole clearing
Sickle, Defender, liberator, or breaker for general use
Redeemer for close range emergency

I think the most important thing is to keep your loadout balanced because you'd never know if the game would throw bile spewer or hunter swarm at you.

Or you at least make sure the team is balanced so you don't have everyone focusing on taking out the heavies and end up being unable to clear out the smaller mobs in a timely fashion.
Zero Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:52pm 
if playing solo, don't be afraid to disengage to reattack.
if playing with at least one other. we'll call them player B:
have player B pull back to cover
player a stays to engage, when play B engages. player A runs back to B. repeat. as the bugs will run into the meat grinder behind you it'll allow you to move back out of areas of major threat and wittle down enemies as they push you.
just keep an eye to the flanks as patrols still exist.
Redeyeflight Apr 8, 2024 @ 1:00pm 
Originally posted by ZTEQ:
After killing bots for a good 3+ weeks and doing 80% of my leveling in bot missions, I am now finding myself struggling to find a groove in bug missions. Prior to this I was having a lot of fun in 7+ difficulty in bot missions and doing very well.

I'm level 30 with basically all the stratagems, have the paid battle pass the includes sickle, and have enough premium currency to get another one (although im waiting for the new one to drop to see which one I want to get).

I tried to jump straight into 7 difficulty bug missions and maybe that was my issue, but I am constantly getting swarmed. The bots felt like a tactical mission with base breaches and such, but bugs just feel like non-stop running and kiting. I'm basically running while endlessly dealing with swarms until one of the bigger bugs kills me. I'm finding myself not having any time to even accomplish anything. Happening over and over.

Any tips for weapon load out? Strategems? I did love the arc thrower in the few bug missions I played prior to nerf, but I tried it and it doesn't feel even remotely as good at clearing packs anymore. Flamethrower still seems not so good either. Just really at a loss in bugs. At this point I'm almost ready to take a break for awhile until some missions are available that aren't bug missions.

Any tips greatly appreciated.

I mean I know this isn't going to help too much but I'll give it a shot.

There is a reinforcement timer just like on bots, but bugs have a lot more units that can use it, some of them are armored, and some of them can use it even if you've already blown off their head.

When you engage or get engaged by a group of bugs, there will be a reinforcement call. Just plan for it.

If you have not killed the initial group off before the second wave of reinforcements comes out of the breech you will probably end up in a death spiral, and endless reinforcement loop.

That's where your big hordes are probably coming from. It's happening because you're running, and not running into a turret or team mate that can help you burn them down.

Always open an engagement with a strategem that is appropriate for the enemy type. If there are small to medium enemies open with something like cluster bomb that covers a large area to clear them out.

The hunters are usually the threat. The little green bile spitters set you up for the hunters. Chargers, Bile Titans, and even Bile spewers are just there to set you up for the hunters to knock you down, or so the hunters can slow you so you can't dodge.

Focus down little green bile spiters and hunters with equal priority, as quicly as possible.
Chargers, bile titans, and big bile spewers cant' call for reinforcements, and usually aren't much of a threat on their own if you know their patterns.

If you see a stalker, stop everything you're doing. Surviving it and tracking it back to it's nest to destroy it is now your only priority.

Don't just walk into spores. Get some high ground and find the mushroom to clear the air.

If you see a shrieker nest take it out from greater than 150 meters. Recoiless rifle, autocannon, QC, anything with heavy pen and the range to reach it should do the job. Spear will not lock these nests.

This is all IMO and just getting started.
Imnuktam Apr 8, 2024 @ 1:03pm 
Use faster armor instead of heavy and breaker incendiary with machine pistol and depending on level something to deal with chargers and bile titans. If someone else in team is already bringing auto cannon, eat or quasar then grenade launcher can work great against all the spewers and closes all the bug holes.

Napalm strike is a good one for bugs as they will just pour through the fire and melt. And railcannon orbital is great for the big guys if you dont bring weapons for them.

Dont fight them all, just run from engagements you can and move on to next target. People who have had bad experiences will tell you not to bring tesla but once you get the hang of it its a great tool vs bugs and can get 40+ kills all by itself if you dont let the spewers and chargers take it out. If you go prone in its range it will 'usually' not ever hit you and same goes for the shriekers.
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Date Posted: Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:25pm
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