What's the point?

[Lord Toranaga]

Why bother having differeing level of difficulties if the mobs are still going to be full on? I'm trying to get my wife and niece to play but you make even the noob levels impossibly ruthless and they quit after 3 tries each. Great game design.

[PETROL SNIFFER]

skill issue

[Alby]

Originally posted by FBI:

skill

but also

Originally posted by FBI:

issue

[Evono]

Originally posted by KILLOWATTS:

Why bother having differeing level of difficulties if the mobs are still going to be full on? I'm trying to get my wife and niece to play but you make even the noob levels impossibly ruthless and they quit after 3 tries each. Great game design.

True , the enemys could use some Dificulty adjustments for the different adjustments , theres Literally no difference between an Charger on dificulty 3 or 9.

Originally posted by FBI:

skill issue

Yes great that you found out for what dificultys usually exist different skill levels :) but dificultys in HD2 are just "more enemy types or less"

[SPIGOT]

Yeah the game can be punishing, and it's not gonna be everyone's thing. All I can say is you kinda have to practice and slowly work your way up the difficulties.

Another big piece of advice is don't feel the need to fight every enemy you see. Retreating from a fight can more often be better than winning a fight.

[shadain597]

Uh, Trivial isn't "impossibly ruthless". Though, I guess it'd be rough for a solo player who has very little experience with shooters.

[Malthus]

If you fail even on trivial - and I mean not just die once or twice and repeatedly without any improvement on your end in sight - then the game likely just isn't for you. The first 4 difficulties are as chill as it gets and can easily done by yourself if you've gotten used to it even higher. With a full team those just go by in a blink.

Either let them get accustomed with it some more or if they have no fun playing at all just let them be.

[Queltis]

Originally posted by KILLOWATTS:

Why bother having differeing level of difficulties if the mobs are still going to be full on? I'm trying to get my wife and niece to play but you make even the noob levels impossibly ruthless and they quit after 3 tries each. Great game design.

The difference between the difficulties is in what enemies you face, and the number of enemies you face. Run trivial missions with your wife and daughter so they get a better feel for the game. When they get a handle on how things work bump it up to D2's so they can start easing into objectives and how the bugs react to them.

[Punchmeat]

If medium and below is too difficult then jesus christ thats bad

[Albireo]

Yeah you went too high too fast. Trivial missions have so little to do at all much less anything hard. Just a small handful of the weakest enemies possible at most and a ton of empty ground. Flip side though this game is expressly not made for everyone and you may have found people to whom this game is not for. Congrats.

[SteelDemon]

Get someone that knows what they're doing to help you carry the team until all of you learn the game. Stay on medium-challenging until you do. I'm sure people would love to help you out.

[Lythe]

If you play on difficulty level 1 (trivial) in public games matchmaking is very likely to pair you with teammates who will be happy to carry you through the early stages of the learning curve.

It is also important to keep in mind that winning a mission only requires completing the main mission objective, it does not require surviving to extraction.

Stay calm, keep at it. The difficulty level system works well, and the trivial mission are quite doable.

[shadain597]

Originally posted by Evono:

Originally posted by KILLOWATTS:

Why bother having differeing level of difficulties if the mobs are still going to be full on? I'm trying to get my wife and niece to play but you make even the noob levels impossibly ruthless and they quit after 3 tries each. Great game design.

True , the enemys could use some Dificulty adjustments for the different adjustments , theres Literally no difference between an Charger on dificulty 3 or 9.

Nah, that's actually a good thing. Murdering a Charger with a single Liberator mag on D3 but needing 6 EATs to the head on D9 just encourages people to play only one difficulty, because each time they switch they have to figure out what is effective against each enemy.

That said, the difficulties might benefit from a bit of a spawn adjustment. For example, D3 doesn't get normal Charger spawns, only the specific kill quest IIRC, but on D4 Chargers are in practically every breach and outpost. It's not unusual for there to be more than one charger attacking the group, which seems like a huge step up in difficulty for a game with 9 of them. Similarly, I haven't seen many spewers in D3 but they seem pretty common in D4 too.

[Bear your Bears]

The short of it here is that they (wife and niece) don't have to like this type of game if they don't want to. You're wondering why a significant amount of dev time wasn't put into developing a mode where even the minority of the minority of low skill players can win?

Sorry, but the devs have better things to do. Like keep the game from burning to the ground, or maybe they could try to introduce no new bugs in their next patch and actually solve some instead.

Find some more neutral hobbies to spend time with your family. Even just some easier games, like Deep Rock Galactic or Orcs Must Die if you really want to drag them into your hobbies.

[Catteus Of Mars]

you should start with something easier with fluffy animals like palworld and then slowly scam them into spreading democracy.

[Queltis]

Originally posted by Catteus Of Mars:

you should start with something easier with fluffy animals like palworld and then slowly scam them into spreading democracy.

If they want to get them into Co-OP shooters then something like Deep Rock Galactic might be a better option.