High CPU Temperature

[[Death死神] Txeon]

I am having High CPU temperature while playing the game.
While the game running, all my CPU Core running overclock near to 5Ghz. I think that's the reason why the temperature spike so high. I think high chances is the game is not optimized is CPU. Even my CPU usage is around 45Pct, the CPU temperature is 90C.

Following is my spec
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X with AIO cooler
64GB DDR4 RAM
Gigabyte 3080ti
Asus ROG strix X570 MB

[skibea]

is it throttling or shutting down? and how old is the AIO, because some of the poorly made ones barely last 1 year (i.e. Lian Li galahad, went through 2 of them). There could be corrosion inside that clogs the fins and prevent cold plate from transferring the heat. You could search for any complains with your AIO model to rule it out

[Jonny Sparta]

Checking specs I see the 5950 comes base clock 3.4 w/max boost clock 4.9.
Have you got it running an all core OC to 5?
It's been a while since I was looking at ryzen OC but that sounds hot to me.
It could be that your overclock is only temp stable in less demanding titles.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

You have AMD. That is the issue.

[QuakeBeard]

AIO on the way out? My 5900x made my system hard crash when my old AIO went out playing Remnant 2. Works perfect since I replaced it.

[_Atr4Mør5]

Skill issue

[DoktorFar]

Originally posted by Death死神 Txeon:

I am having High CPU temperature while playing the game.
While the game running, all my CPU Core running overclock near to 5Ghz. I think that's the reason why the temperature spike so high. I think high chances is the game is not optimized is CPU. Even my CPU usage is around 45Pct, the CPU temperature is 90C.

Following is my spec
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X with AIO cooler
64GB DDR4 RAM
Gigabyte 3080ti
Asus ROG strix X570 MB

Don't use the ingame frame limiter, it doesn't work and apparantly it will just eat up as much cpu as it can without any benefit. Use instead the frame limit option in your Nvidia control panel for the Helldivers 2 game profile.

Also you may consider downclocking your CPU as it does sounds like your cooling solution may not be aligned properly with it. In general you should not overclock unless your cooling solution can support good temps at max loads. Which with your cpu and the overclocking on it would mean good watercooling and airflow.

[Waldherz]

Originally posted by DoktorFar:

Originally posted by Death死神 Txeon:

I am having High CPU temperature while playing the game.
While the game running, all my CPU Core running overclock near to 5Ghz. I think that's the reason why the temperature spike so high. I think high chances is the game is not optimized is CPU. Even my CPU usage is around 45Pct, the CPU temperature is 90C.

Following is my spec
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X with AIO cooler
64GB DDR4 RAM
Gigabyte 3080ti
Asus ROG strix X570 MB

Don't use the ingame frame limiter, it doesn't work and apparantly it will just eat up as much cpu as it can without any benefit. Use instead the frame limit option in your Nvidia control panel for the Helldivers 2 game profile.

The in game frame limiter does work, as in capping your frames.
It works well in that regard. But yes, it consumes more CPU for whatever reason.

[Forward_Bee]

Those temps are very high. Without knowing your AIO specs (let's assume a 360, triple fan setup), I recommend that you check temps in other pieces of software (benchmarking) to see if it also reaches up to 90c. If so, ensure the AIO was installed correctly (paste added, plastic film removed, etc.). If that all checks out, you should investigate your OC settings.
If you overclocked too aggressively that would explain the heat. Big AIO's do okay with cooling, but they have limits.
We also don't know anything else about your PC, such as case or general airflow. You could have the best cooling solutions in the world, but if you tuck the case into a cabinet or otherwise restrict airflow you're going to have a bad time.

[DoktorFar]

Originally posted by Deep Rock Galactic:

If your usage is only 45% then that temp is not normal man. Check your airflow, if it's ok you need repaste. I had high temps with low load until i checked and realized there was almost no paste left

Actually this may be quite normal (although it does sounds like OP may benefit from removign the OC on the cpu and resetting to factory defaults. OR invest in a proper water cooling solution).

In some modern high end cpu's often 50% is all of the necessary and beneficial usage for many games. You can get 100% if you use your CPU for more intensive stuff like chess analysis for example, but then if it's powerful cpu you'll need some water cooling due to the turbo charging a shipload of power through it. I opted to not have water cooling and just a medium range air cooling sink with a nice medium fan. It's pretty silent, was very cheap, but does a pretty good job. It's only during chess analysis or through benchmarking that really pushes the cpu that it gets too hot and the temp throttle kicks in. Im completely fine with that, and I even lowered the max turbo time charge and the max temps. Contrary to some people may think it's not a waste of a powerful cpu to do this, you still get a very significant speedy and responsive pc at lower loads with a stronger cpu (megahertz for example is far from everything and cannot reliably be used in comparisons, especially not as a single statistic).

Such CPU's also allows you to multitask with great efficiency while cpu intensive games and applications are running, allowign swift and easy alt tabbing out to multiple other heavy featured programs, like multiple browsers with videos etc, other video applications like VLC, and many other programs running on your computer and with open projects in them. I use my pc like that and games usually take no more than 50% cpu, but that's because the rest of the cores are not needed (nor necessarily suited) for the game. Often Im using near 30GB of ram too, a testament to all the programs im running simultaneously with games. Sometimes even multiple games depending on what games they are (not all support that because some resources can't or wont be shared properly).

But for some reason in this game, Helldivers 2, it will eat almost as much cpu power as chessanalysis does when Nvidia control panel frame limiter is not set. The ingame frame limiters is not doing its job! When someone told me this and I tried it out I was like holy hell. I didn't see this happening in other games so it came as a surprise that this was the cause of some of the high cpu temps I had been seeing.

[Waldherz]

Originally posted by Forward_Bee:

Those temps are very high. Without knowing your AIO specs (let's assume a 360, triple fan setup), I recommend that you check temps in other pieces of software (benchmarking) to see if it also reaches up to 90c. If so, ensure the AIO was installed correctly (paste added, plastic film removed, etc.). If that all checks out, you should investigate your OC settings.
If you overclocked too aggressively that would explain the heat. Big AIO's do okay with cooling, but they have limits.
We also don't know anything else about your PC, such as case or general airflow. You could have the best cooling solutions in the world, but if you tuck the case into a cabinet or otherwise restrict airflow you're going to have a bad time.

Or the guy has PBO enabled + high ambient.

[_Atr4Mør5]

Originally posted by DoktorFar:

But for some reason in this game, Helldivers 2, it will eat almost as much cpu power as chessanalysis does when Nvidia control panel frame limiter is not set.

I dunno why ppl complaining about CPU usage in HD2. Do you know what game is really CPU heavy? The Finals. Cuz Finals usung 80-90% of 8/16 CPU, and at the same time HD2 using about 50% +/- 20%. And if HD2 using only 50% of 8/16 threads then OPs 5950x should be used only for 10-20%.

So, if he complaining about temps then it's mean something wrong in his cooling system or he lives somewhere on the equator and his PC is standing in the hot sun.

[Evilphd]

Check to make sure Frame Generation is turned off. It's a cool tech but they haven't worked out capping the frames yet on it. Which can lead to cooking systems.

I'm running on a 5800x3D on an AIO and CPU maybe gets 50-60% but nothing concerning. Also have the frames capped at 60fps and frame gen turned off.

I have Corsair THM70 paste and Deep Cool LT 520 AIO and it can take extreme CPU loads no problem.

> Even my CPU usage is around 45Pct, the CPU temperature is 90C.

That's not normal. Either AIO is screwing up or paste has an issue.

[Waldherz]

Originally posted by Evilphd:

Check to make sure Frame Generation is turned off. It's a cool tech but they haven't worked out capping the frames yet on it. Which can lead to cooking systems.

I'm running on a 5800x3D on an AIO and CPU maybe gets 50-60% but nothing concerning. Also have the frames capped at 60fps and frame gen turned off.

I have Corsair THM70 paste and Deep Cool LT 520 AIO and it can take extreme CPU loads no problem.

> Even my CPU usage is around 45Pct, the CPU temperature is 90C.

That's not normal. Either AIO is screwing up or paste has an issue.

The game doesnt have frame generation. Nor does the 3080 ti.

[DoktorFar]

Originally posted by _Atr4Mør5:

Originally posted by DoktorFar:

But for some reason in this game, Helldivers 2, it will eat almost as much cpu power as chessanalysis does when Nvidia control panel frame limiter is not set.

I dunno why ppl complaining about CPU usage in HD2. Do you know what game is really CPU heavy? The Finals. Cuz Finals usung 80-90% of 8/16 CPU, and at the same time HD2 using about 50% +/- 20%. And if HD2 using only 50% of 8/16 threads then OPs 5950x should be used only for 10-20%.

So, if he complaining about temps then it's mean something wrong in his cooling system or he lives somewhere on the equator and his PC is standing in the hot sun.

Im afraid that this is not necessarily the case (although it certainly could (also) be). If you read the first part of my comment (the parts before the quoted part) I go into details explaining this. It can admittedly be a little difficult to understand due to some of technical details involved.

[Waldherz]

Originally posted by DoktorFar:

Originally posted by _Atr4Mør5:

I dunno why ppl complaining about CPU usage in HD2. Do you know what game is really CPU heavy? The Finals. Cuz Finals usung 80-90% of 8/16 CPU, and at the same time HD2 using about 50% +/- 20%. And if HD2 using only 50% of 8/16 threads then OPs 5950x should be used only for 10-20%.

So, if he complaining about temps then it's mean something wrong in his cooling system or he lives somewhere on the equator and his PC is standing in the hot sun.

Im afraid that this is not necessarily the case (although it certainly could (also) be). If you read the first part of my comment (the parts before the quoted part) I go into details explaining this. It can admittedly be a little difficult to understand due to some of technical details involved.

Besides, if given enough headroom, HD2 can very well use 16 threads on a modern CPU.
The game basically uses all 8 P cores with their threads on a 13900K and also pouts some light load on the E cores at higher levels.