HELLDIVERS™ 2

HELLDIVERS™ 2

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_MAGS-EMPTY_ May 13, 2024 @ 12:44am
PLAS-101 PURIFIER ...what even is this.
This weapon is like a terrible Arc thrower, but with a magazine, claims to be "Explosive" but won't even kill chaff next to each other. Can I get a refund on those 90 medals? How is the Dev behind weapon balancing calling all the weapons in the new warbond S tier? Do these people even play their game?
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Katitoff May 13, 2024 @ 2:26am 
Originally posted by Wutever:
Originally posted by Katitoff:
You will understand only after you learn to shoot at dropship cargo, either still on it, or when its dropped.
Or I could just do the same with an AC or any other plasma.
Plasma punisher does not have range.
Scorcher does not have this kind of AoE.
AC is not primary and it absolutely SUCKS in killing regular bots even if they're close to each other.

Trade offs.
Last edited by Katitoff; May 13, 2024 @ 2:27am
Malidictus May 13, 2024 @ 2:32am 
Originally posted by KERA_AK:
Everyone should check the Polarize warbond trailer, how easy & nice & fun it was to shoot down those AT-AT striders in the game. And try it out to do the same in game today! :)

Oh, this is an entirely separate issue. Arrowhead made the pants-on-head decision to give Scout Striders explosive resistance (and rather a lot of it, it seems like). That obviously kneecaps the Purifier against them, along with every other explosive weapon.

This is so typical of their awful design. Here's an enemy with thick frontal armour and an open cockpit. A clever player would quickly put together that such an enemy would be vulnerable to explosives. "No!" says the Arrowhead balance team. "Bad player! Hit them from behind like you're supposed to! Stop trying to be clever!"

You fight like the balance team wants you to fight. If you find any alternate ways, expect them to be patched out. Helldivers 2 was great by mistake. Players latched on to and enjoyed a lot of the ways in which balance worked not as intended. Arrowhead have been trying to fix that ever since.
Slaanesh Servant May 13, 2024 @ 3:04am 
the "explosive" thing doesn´t mean it goes boom. It means that it deals more dmg to squishy parts
Wutever May 13, 2024 @ 3:11am 
Originally posted by Katitoff:
Originally posted by Wutever:
Or I could just do the same with an AC or any other plasma.
Plasma punisher does not have range.
Scorcher does not have this kind of AoE.
AC is not primary and it absolutely SUCKS in killing regular bots even if they're close to each other.

Trade offs.
lmao
Chaos May 13, 2024 @ 3:17am 
Originally posted by Katitoff:
Trade offs.

Trade offs only work then when trade is actually worth something.
This gun got garbage dps and worthless aoe in exchange for ????
Last edited by Chaos; May 13, 2024 @ 3:21am
CipherΞHawk May 13, 2024 @ 3:18am 
That is like a nerf gun and not a real weapon. May as well just bash them to death at this point.
Katitoff May 13, 2024 @ 3:24am 
Originally posted by Chaos:
Originally posted by Katitoff:
Trade offs.

Trade offs only work then when trade is actually worth something.
This gun got garbage dps and worthless aoe in exchange for ????
That literally is a definition of a trade off and how it works.

If disadvantage of weapon makes it not worth it for you, that's your opinion, your preference and your playstyle, you're not forced to pick and use it, go for variant that suits you more.

You literally agree with me and explain why.
Wutever May 13, 2024 @ 3:29am 
Originally posted by Katitoff:
Originally posted by Chaos:

Trade offs only work then when trade is actually worth something.
This gun got garbage dps and worthless aoe in exchange for ????
That literally is a definition of a trade off and how it works.

If disadvantage of weapon makes it not worth it for you, that's your opinion, your preference and your playstyle, you're not forced to pick and use it, go for variant that suits you more.

You literally agree with me and explain why.
It's not a tradeoff when the Purifier has no advantage over the other options 95% of the time.

Muh range means nothing when the gun has no DPS. It's almost Eruptor-tier, but unlike the Eruptor you can't even move at full speed shooting it.
Sanglaine May 13, 2024 @ 3:31am 
Yeap. As an energy weapons fan, it's incredibly disappointing.
Chaos May 13, 2024 @ 3:32am 
Originally posted by Katitoff:
That literally is a definition of a trade off and how it works.

If disadvantage of weapon makes it not worth it for you, that's your opinion, your preference and your playstyle, you're not forced to pick and use it, go for variant that suits you more.

You literally agree with me and explain why.

But I don't? I literary call it garbage, because this trade doesn't work.

This gun trade out the most important thing for a gun, The Dps.

There are no point in bigger aoe than scorcher or longer range than plas punisher if it can't kill things fast enough, it's just a poorly design gun.
Katitoff May 13, 2024 @ 3:43am 
Originally posted by Wutever:
Originally posted by Katitoff:
That literally is a definition of a trade off and how it works.

If disadvantage of weapon makes it not worth it for you, that's your opinion, your preference and your playstyle, you're not forced to pick and use it, go for variant that suits you more.

You literally agree with me and explain why.
It's not a tradeoff when the Purifier has no advantage over the other options 95% of the time.

Muh range means nothing when the gun has no DPS. It's almost Eruptor-tier, but unlike the Eruptor you can't even move at full speed shooting it.
Literally AoE and damage advantage over scorcher and range and precision over plasma punisher.

You ignoring advantages does not make them disappear.

DPS is not mean everything, you would understand that if you ever played against bots, mr bug man.

It is a garbage weapon vs bugs, but it is good vs bots.
Last edited by Katitoff; May 13, 2024 @ 3:44am
ФDeadEyeФ May 13, 2024 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by Katitoff:
Originally posted by Wutever:
It's not a tradeoff when the Purifier has no advantage over the other options 95% of the time.

Muh range means nothing when the gun has no DPS. It's almost Eruptor-tier, but unlike the Eruptor you can't even move at full speed shooting it.
Literally AoE and damage advantage over scorcher and range and precision over plasma punisher.

You ignoring advantages does not make them disappear.

DPS is not mean everything, you would understand that if you ever played against bots, mr bug man.

It is a garbage weapon vs bugs, but it is good vs bots.

I haven't tried to against bots - does it knock over the walkers with the explosion? If it did that I think it's definitely worth it.
Anubis May 13, 2024 @ 11:34am 
It can 2 shot a walker its just crappy having to charge and group hitting seems to be done at range. I tried on bots and the rate of fire means you will get overwhelmed. I prefer rate of fire and accuracy so this was not for me
Midas May 13, 2024 @ 11:46am 
The more I'm using it, the more I like it, actually. Aside from being unable to close fabricators, it does most of what I would normally use an Eruptor for, but with much better handling, fire rate, magazine size, and reload speed.
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