Polar Patriots weapons suck

[JRawr]

The tenderizer is worse than the liberator.
The pummeler is mid.
Plasma purifier shoots too slow.
The P113 is just a downgraded senator.

What the ♥♥♥♥ were the developers thinking? How is this a s-tier warbond alexus?

[Complex.cN]

Pummeler is actually very good. it actually stun enemies, not just stagger

[Larcen7]

About 80-85% of the weapons suck now.....

[Rampant Razza]

i am enojying the pummeler/ballistic shield combo for bots. and the fire nades are great fun for bugs.

the rest will probably just collect dust

[ShockedHearts]

warbonds are a lot more than weapons. and if you only view them as weapon then you are imo viewing them in a shallow light.

armor, emotes, grenades, player cards etc. are also things to factor in when valuing a warbond.

of which i think every armor looks great, the grenade is good, the player cards look good, and the emotes are good. the booster is situationally good as well

so overall. great warbond. 2/3 weapons are crap, but they are surely gonna get buffed..

[Evilphd]

I'm loving the new incendiary nade. That made it worth it to me. Well that and the new emotes. Bought with free SC, which you kind of get back a bit on the war bond through medal purchases.

They are probably thinking they don't want this to be a "pay to win" game and have some more situational variety. Like those incendiary nades aren't going to work well against the bots.

Then you have to look at what is coming next? It should be obvious a new faction is coming into play sometimes. I'm sure they don't want to burn all their twists and expansions all at once. So you have to take that into consideration. There's also Joel who is managing the ongoing "story line" and the actual players actions all coming into play.

So you might have a primary from one warbond, a secondary from another, a nade from another and a boost from another yet. You'll figure out what works best for you depending on your play style and type of enemies you are fighting.

I'm glad this game doesn't force you into a "class" where you can play what fits you best.

Patience. Little foresight. Little hindsight.

I think they should maybe slow down the pace of the releases. But they have a better feel on that end than I do.

[0Synergy]

Publicado originalmente por ShockedHearts:

warbonds are a lot more than weapons. and if you only view them as weapon then you are imo viewing them in a shallow light.

armor, emotes, grenades, player cards etc. are also things to factor in when valuing a warbond.

of which i think every armor looks great, the grenade is good, the player cards look good, and the emotes are good. the booster is situationally good as well

so overall. great warbond. 2/3 weapons are crap, but they are surely gonna get buffed..

The armors look great but do nothing new, so they are useless, the emotes are whatever and playercards are useless. they are stocking stuffers the guns and armor are presents. Also the motivational shocks is so useless that you didin't even remember to mention it on paper it sounds good in practice its useless because MOST slow downs are aoe based.

[SilentHero]

No bad weapons everything S Tier.

[Grenthy]

Tenderizer I am absolutely certain was statted out before the last balance patch, meaning it originally had more damage than the liberator. Not that that is an excuse.

I originally dismissed the pummeler as well, but I have been loving it on bots where I can put a small burst into a berserker and stop it dead to get an easier headshot with a senator or verdict. It's also good on bugs, as it can stunlock stalkers and stop chargers.

And the verdict, while I wish it had at least medium armor pen, can easily deal with bot chaff and is reliable.

I haven't personally used the purifier, so no comment.

[sadchaos]

Publicado originalmente por Complex.cN:

Pummeler is actually very good. it actually stun enemies, not just stagger

Congrats still takes forever to kill anything.
There are weapons that exist already that have both stagger and the ability to kill reasonably.
The pummler isn't "good" it's just barely passable. Stop trying to hype up a doa weapon.

[Wutever]

Publicado originalmente por Rampant Razza:

i am enojying the pummeler/ballistic shield combo for bots. and the fire nades are great fun for bugs.

the rest will probably just collect dust

How is Pummeler any better than Defender? It's worse at killing infantry because it has a slower fire rate and the knockback can move them out of the way of your bullets. You still need to fish for headshots against Devastators, which is easier with a higher ROF.

The stun is a fun meme, but I don't see how it is actually relevant to justify such a massive decrease in DPS.

[sadchaos]

Publicado originalmente por Wutever:

Publicado originalmente por Rampant Razza:

i am enojying the pummeler/ballistic shield combo for bots. and the fire nades are great fun for bugs.

the rest will probably just collect dust

How is Pummeler any better than Defender? It's worse at killing infantry because it has a slower fire rate and the knockback can move them out of the way of your bullets. You still need to fish for headshots against Devastators, which is easier with a higher ROF.

The stun is a fun meme, but I don't see how it is actually relevant to justify such a massive decrease in DPS.

There is no justification. You can get the same insane stun from weapons like the punisher or jar-5 and those do actual damage.
You can stun enemies using stun grenades.
You can use literally any support weapon to practically insta kill most opponents without wasting 5 mags.

[Complex.cN]

Publicado originalmente por sadchaos:

Publicado originalmente por Wutever:

How is Pummeler any better than Defender? It's worse at killing infantry because it has a slower fire rate and the knockback can move them out of the way of your bullets. You still need to fish for headshots against Devastators, which is easier with a higher ROF.

The stun is a fun meme, but I don't see how it is actually relevant to justify such a massive decrease in DPS.

There is no justification. You can get the same insane stun from weapons like the punisher or jar-5 and those do actual damage.
You can stun enemies using stun grenades.
You can use literally any support weapon to practically insta kill most opponents without wasting 5 mags.

Punisher or Jar-5 are stagger, this SMG does stun which is very different. Try it against hordes of berserks or when facing multiple stalkers. + it stuns chargers when hitting exposed body parts

[0Synergy]

Publicado originalmente por Complex.cN:

Publicado originalmente por sadchaos:

There is no justification. You can get the same insane stun from weapons like the punisher or jar-5 and those do actual damage.
You can stun enemies using stun grenades.
You can use literally any support weapon to practically insta kill most opponents without wasting 5 mags.

Punisher or Jar-5 are stagger, this SMG does stun which is very different. Try it against hordes of berserks or when facing multiple stalkers. + it stuns chargers when hitting exposed body parts

Stagger is more than enough to give you enough time to get a headshot and tbh its easy as hell to get headshots on most of the automatons did all the time back when rail gun was meta also. Automatons are threaten when their is 30 of them shooting you at once in which point the pummeler isnt going to do anything to that mass of health anyway, and your best bet is a strat anyway, Jar is just an overall better option not the only option or only viable option but the better option that makes anything else that cant compete or do other things at the same time redundant, with 3 weapons a month I seriously fear in a few months that most of the weapon roster will be just slightly different flavours of weapon archetype

[Despaired.]

Publicado originalmente por Mai Flash:

The tenderizer is worse than the liberator.
The pummeler is mid.
Plasma purifier shoots too slow.
The P113 is just a downgraded senator.

What the ♥♥♥♥ were the developers thinking? How is this a s-tier warbond alexus?

S stands for shxt tier

[gachi is manly]

Pummler is okay I suppose.

They're all so freakin boring, though.