Any ETA on a rep system?

[BiggieJohn]

We are months in and i'm getting tired of still getting kicked by lvl 40+ that still haven't learned how to play the game yet. 9/10 times calling in the pelican gets me the boot after nearly everything is done and we got 10-15 minutes on the clock left.

I get it, you are bad and can't fathom the idea of someone not needing you to do things. Doesn't mean i'm going to leave you... Grown divers with baby legs still. Here I am thinking i'm showing you how to play.

A green thumbs up, a yellow shakey hand. A red thumbs down. All i'm asking for. When they kick people it hurts their rep icon. I'll know to not even bother joining the reds or yellows if I choose.

[Quadsword]

Counter-Strike had a similar system called trust factor. It was basically worthless because people could just report you for griefing / cheating without any proof and tank your trust factor.

[BiggieJohn]

Originally posted by Quadsword:

Counter-Strike had a similar system called trust factor. It was basically worthless because people could just report you for griefing / cheating without any proof and tank your trust factor.

That would not be similar to what I was detailing. All I am asking for is when a host kicks someone it hits the hosts rep icon. Host has to play 1 or 2 games to get back to green icon from yellow without kicking.

Quite simple. You see red don't join. You see yellow join at your own risk.

[Quadsword]

Originally posted by BiggieJohn:

Originally posted by Quadsword:

Counter-Strike had a similar system called trust factor. It was basically worthless because people could just report you for griefing / cheating without any proof and tank your trust factor.

That would not be similar to what I was detailing. All I am asking for is when a host kicks someone it hits the hosts rep icon. Host has to play 1 or 2 games to get back to green icon from yellow without kicking.

Okay. What if the host had to kick an obvious troll in his last match? That hardly seems fair to give the host negative rep even in situations where a kick was fully justified.

[BiggieJohn]

Originally posted by Quadsword:

Originally posted by BiggieJohn:

That would not be similar to what I was detailing. All I am asking for is when a host kicks someone it hits the hosts rep icon. Host has to play 1 or 2 games to get back to green icon from yellow without kicking.

Okay. What if the host had to kick an obvious troll in his last match? That hardly seems fair to give the host negative rep even in situations where a kick was fully justified.

The host just plays another game or two to bump it green again??? I just detailed that it's very simple. You are not understanding the concept that a single person can troll 3 others far easier when they are host than not.

[VelxraTV]

As a level 100, I love getting in the pelican with 30 some samples. Getting headshot hearing hurr hurr no one gets in the ship before me. As we lose the samples and they of course didnt bother to collect the entire match.

And its level 60+ acting this way or overall being worthless. Truly amazes me how many are leveled purely from others carrying them instead of learning the game.

[BiggieJohn]

Originally posted by Velxra:

As a level 100, I love getting in the pelican with 30 some samples. Getting headshot hearing hurr hurr no one gets in the ship before me. As we lose the samples and they of course didnt bother to collect the entire match.

And its level 60+ acting this way or overall being worthless. Truly amazes me how many are leveled purely from others carrying them instead of learning the game.

It really is. All i'm asking for is a host rep icon.

[Izlude]

Originally posted by BiggieJohn:

Originally posted by Quadsword:

Okay. What if the host had to kick an obvious troll in his last match? That hardly seems fair to give the host negative rep even in situations where a kick was fully justified.

The host just plays another game or two to bump it green again??? I just detailed that it's very simple. You are not understanding the concept that a single person can troll 3 others far easier when they are host than not.

That seems like a terrible idea. Troll joins, host kicks them and gets negative rep? That would absolutely be abused by trolls to give people bad rep. You generally wont get kicked unless you do something that really pisses off host. You can also host yourself if you want to 100% ensure you cant get kicked. This is basically a complete nonissue.

[BiggieJohn]

Originally posted by Izlude:

Originally posted by BiggieJohn:

The host just plays another game or two to bump it green again??? I just detailed that it's very simple. You are not understanding the concept that a single person can troll 3 others far easier when they are host than not.

That seems like a terrible idea. Troll joins, host kicks them and gets negative rep? That would absolutely be abused by trolls to give people bad rep. You generally wont get kicked unless you do something that really pisses off host. You can also host yourself if you want to 100% ensure you cant get kicked. This is basically a complete nonissue.

You are so innocent.

[Izlude]

Originally posted by BiggieJohn:

Originally posted by Izlude:

That seems like a terrible idea. Troll joins, host kicks them and gets negative rep? That would absolutely be abused by trolls to give people bad rep. You generally wont get kicked unless you do something that really pisses off host. You can also host yourself if you want to 100% ensure you cant get kicked. This is basically a complete nonissue.

You are so innocent.

No I am realistic. what you are asking for would be the most easily abused tool you could give a troll and your reason for it is basically nonexistent. You can already block people, host your own game or try actually getting along with other people when you join their lobby. Very simple.

[WEi Wei]

If people don't like the way YOU are playing the game and its CONSISTENT.

Other people aren't the problem.

There is also in game chat where you can communicate with other human beings.

Thanks for my ted talk.

[BiggieJohn]

Originally posted by Izlude:

Originally posted by BiggieJohn:

You are so innocent.

No I am realistic. what you are asking for would be the most easily abused tool you could give a troll and your reason for it is basically nonexistent. You can already block people, host your own game or try actually getting along with other people when you join their lobby. Very simple.

Okay then you are oblivious. I never said let a player give a host positive or negative rep. This is a tried and true method dating back to the early 2000's server rep. You must be 20's or under. Host have the most responsibility of all, to provide 3 players with a good experience. This also means a host has the highest potential for abuse. So until you have a logical statement to make you are oblivious.

[BiggieJohn]

Originally posted by WEi Wei:

If people don't like the way YOU are playing the game and its CONSISTENT.

Other people aren't the problem.

There is also in game chat where you can communicate with other human beings.

Thanks for my ted talk.

Jokes on you i'm recommending a working method since the year 2000. This is how far behind this games peer to peer system is. We shouldn't even be having this talk, this should be on hosted servers.

[Sarilas]

Maybe it should be a vote kick then?

[BiggieJohn]

Originally posted by Sarilas:

Maybe it should be a vote kick then?

Even vote kicking is a 20+ year old method. Though that has abuse. The system I just recommended literally can not be abused. It's self automated. So for the people trying to say. "Thats not fair, that will be abused" They have no idea how peer to peer connections have gone for the past 25 years.

I'm basically recommending a "server signal strength" icon so to speak. Which if you've ever used wifi it's pretty straight forward what the icon tells you.

[Nani Sore]

I don't see what is wrong with letting people know the host likes to kick. In theory this benefits the host because all of you deniers are saying you NEVER get kicked, or have never been kicked etc. etc., so you would join the host regardless of their rep and everything would be fine but us snowflakes would avoid anything but green.

For me the issue isn't being kicked, its knowing that it can happen and it hangs over your head the entire time. I would prefer to know I am joining a rational host and not a chronic kicker.

I am open to other fixes too like not making me lose the entire games progress and rewards just because one single person felt like booting me for any number of reasons that you run into when dealing with gamers of all ages and mental states on the internet.