For those of you wondering why balance is so out of whack

[David Davidson]

The lead balance dev is the dev from Hello Neighbour.[hello-neighbor.fandom.com]
The one who bailed after tanking the game by not listening to the player base.

This is not good, especially seeing his discord posts where he talks about the recent Eruptor nerf which he calls a buff by saying "40 extra damage always is better than 100 extra damage <(per piece of shrapnel, so about 500 in reality)> sometimes" which shows a complete misunderstanding of the way the Eruptor was used with armpit or crotch shots on devastators to concentrate the shrapnel, shots under chargers to send the shrapnel up into the squishy bits and so on.

Most of his posts are "well I think it's fine so it's not being changed" which does not bode well for HD2. Had I known he was the lead balance dev I'd have probably not bought the game.

Not saying "fire him immediately" but put him underneath a manager who actually listens to their community rather than letting someone who thinks he always knows best be in charge of game balance. This is almost certainly why balancing has been all over the place and at times nonsensical to anyone who actually plays the game for longer than 20 minutes every 2 days.

Edit:
Alexus' post about how the Eruptor is really actually better now.[imgur.com] Image supplied by Yuh.

[David Davidson]

引用自 GHDW：

He ruined my arc thrower.
I'm just surprised these people are being paid, what is the advantage?
No really, I am calling myself stupid and need to learn why people like this are employed when it is clearly a detriment.
Pls hlp

Only logical guess is he knew someone in the industry and got in the door that way.
Or he just covered up his past and nobody did a background check.

HD2 took off far more than the devs expected, time for changes to be made internally. Double check patches before they go live. Get players to beta test, either public or through an NDA that Sony will never see (I would want that in the NDA contract I sign) and create quality updates instead of eurojank tier kneejerk reactions.

[Leatherface24]

Perhaps another bully campaign is in order to get this poison removed from his position

[LoboFH]

引用自 Yuh：

引用自 LoboFH：

Did he say that some minutes ago?, because this afternoon they said "ups the Eruptor"

He said it in the discord yesterday...

Good, and today they said is in a sad state, can we hope for the best?

[Yuh]

引用自 LoboFH：

引用自 Yuh：

He said it in the discord yesterday...

Good, and today they said is in a sad state, can we hope for the best?

Hoping for the best would be for the crazy r00ski to be FIRED lmao

[GHDW]

引用自 David Davidson：

Only logical guess is he knew someone in the industry and got in the door that way.
Or he just covered up his past and nobody did a background check.

HD2 took off far more than the devs expected, time for changes to be made internally. Double check patches before they go live. Get players to beta test, either public or through an NDA that Sony will never see (I would want that in the NDA contract I sign) and create quality updates instead of eurojank tier kneejerk reactions.

Never played the Hello Neighbour series so I've been in the dark, and had I checked his resume the poor track record of that game would be a big red flag.

I completely agree that a change is required, although if only one community manager is considered human (twinbeard), then perhaps a new company to work on this IP is needed.
Wish that Soyny wasn't the owner, that makes it extremely difficult.

[kinza]

oh my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ god getting better and better, aren't we?

[Prime]

引用自 Aethrys：

引用自 David Davidson：

The wiki article I linked sums up his actions.

He removed core features and said "players don't want gimmicks" when the players absolutely wanted features, such as hiding under beds in a stealth game.
He removed open world and said "players don't want an open world" when players want an open world.
He said that the final version was just a test map.
Then bailed from the company.

Here is a more in depth video on Hello Neoghbour"

Yeah, does sound pretty scummy and not someone you'd want making creative decisions around content.

But the perfect candidate for balancing weapons. The ideal villain who will hear that players want to keep effortlessly killing everything with their meta gun, then cackle like skeletor as he reduces the magazine by 3 while saying "Pray I do not reduce it by 4."

Seems he's found a role he can excel at.

Oh wow, you really have no earthly clue either do you?
You do realize making builds nonviable isn't going to result in anything playing the game right? Literally everyone will leave to do something that isn't just a massive waste of their time.

[David Davidson]

引用自 !2B：

引用自 David Davidson：

The lead balance dev is the dev from Hello Neighbour.[hello-neighbor.fandom.com]
The one who bailed after tanking the game by not listening to the player base.

This is not good, especially seeing his discord posts where he talks about the recent Eruptor nerf which he calls a buff by saying "40 extra damage always is better than 100 extra damage <(per piece of shrapnel, so about 500 in reality)> sometimes" which shows a complete misunderstanding of the way the Eruptor was used with armpit or crotch shots on devastators to concentrate the shrapnel, shots under chargers to send the shrapnel up into the squishy bits and so on.

Most of his posts are "well I think it's fine so it's not being changed" which does not bode well for HD2. Had I known he was the lead balance dev I'd have probably not bought the game.

Not saying "fire him immediately" but put him underneath a manager who actually listens to their community rather than letting someone who thinks he always knows best be in charge of game balance. This is almost certainly why balancing has been all over the place and at times nonsensical to anyone who actually plays the game for longer than 20 minutes every 2 days.

I currently don't play the Eruptor. It's just too slow for me. However, I would say that it could be addressed with an improvement in its handling. Damage isn't everything, and I find it strange that a primary weapon deals more damage than some support weapons but is slower than anything else in the game!

Eruptor was the slow, somewhat clunky skillshot weapon that blasted shrapnel. Shrapnel is even in the weapon description.
Speeding up the ROF would just make it a mini autocannon primary.
A game dev needs to know that a weapon has a core identity in something that isn't based on pure realism.

Some identities are simple like the liberator as being "standard battle rifle" some are more complex like "slow and clunky, but in the right hands, a lethal tool, in the wrong hands, utterly useless, if not dangerous to the user"

The ammo nerf would have kept the Eruptor's core identity and made sense as you can't really carry 12 VHS tape sized mags in your high tech battle dress.

[Yuh]

引用自 Prime：

引用自 Aethrys：

Yeah, does sound pretty scummy and not someone you'd want making creative decisions around content.

But the perfect candidate for balancing weapons. The ideal villain who will hear that players want to keep effortlessly killing everything with their meta gun, then cackle like skeletor as he reduces the magazine by 3 while saying "Pray I do not reduce it by 4."

Seems he's found a role he can excel at.

Oh wow, you really have no earthly clue either do you?
You do realize making builds nonviable isn't going to result in anything playing the game right? Literally everyone will leave to do something that isn't just a massive waste of their time.

Just like his last games, where the fanbase opts to play the alpha as opposed to the gutted later builds..., completely ruined. insane.

[Mad Marduk]

With the Eruptor it felt like you were limited by your own skill not the weapon. Maybe that is why it got nerfed.

[dake]

How does this guy have a job? Dude is so tone-deaf to the community he works for.

[SilentHero]

We're at the mercy of this moron, Well time to pack my bags. It's been meh.

[Kleiner's final Form]

引用自 Mad Marduk：

With the Eruptor it felt like you were limited by your own skill not the weapon. Maybe that is why it got nerfed.

It got nerfed because when they released it a month ago, they never once tested it on anything. That's why they considered it's AoE too big after testing on smalls (~1 week later), and through sheer coincidence their change to shrapnel started misbehaving, which then prompted them to remove that. And ONLY because of that did it stop one-shotting mediums, something the devs didn't notice was even possible until people directly pointed out it was gone.

[GHDW]

I understand yoyohoan's quote "A game for everyone is a game for no one."
With more toxic meta changes then it will be played by no one.

[Locarbmonster8]

I just found this out on my latest post. what a ♥♥♥♥♥ joke