HELLDIVERS™ 2

HELLDIVERS™ 2

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David Davidson May 8, 2024 @ 11:12am
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For those of you wondering why balance is so out of whack
The lead balance dev is the dev from Hello Neighbour.[hello-neighbor.fandom.com]
The one who bailed after tanking the game by not listening to the player base.

This is not good, especially seeing his discord posts where he talks about the recent Eruptor nerf which he calls a buff by saying "40 extra damage always is better than 100 extra damage <(per piece of shrapnel, so about 500 in reality)> sometimes" which shows a complete misunderstanding of the way the Eruptor was used with armpit or crotch shots on devastators to concentrate the shrapnel, shots under chargers to send the shrapnel up into the squishy bits and so on.

Most of his posts are "well I think it's fine so it's not being changed" which does not bode well for HD2. Had I known he was the lead balance dev I'd have probably not bought the game.

Not saying "fire him immediately" but put him underneath a manager who actually listens to their community rather than letting someone who thinks he always knows best be in charge of game balance. This is almost certainly why balancing has been all over the place and at times nonsensical to anyone who actually plays the game for longer than 20 minutes every 2 days.

Edit:
Alexus' post about how the Eruptor is really actually better now.[imgur.com] Image supplied by Yuh.
Last edited by David Davidson; May 8, 2024 @ 1:08pm
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Raeniko May 8, 2024 @ 11:13am 
What the ♥♥♥♥?
Mad Marduk May 8, 2024 @ 11:16am 
Well... that makes a lot of things make more sense. Pilestedt needs to reexamine his hiring process.
David Davidson May 8, 2024 @ 11:17am 
Originally posted by Raeniko:
What the ♥♥♥♥?
Exactly what I said when I found out.

Not good to have a balance dev that literally destroyed the game he worked on then fled like Lionel Hutz.

How he ended up at AH is anyone's guess, but he needs to have someone carefully monitor his decisions and have the power to veto them.

Before we end up with hello neighbour 3, bug and bot edition.
Darkhain May 8, 2024 @ 11:21am 
No wonder there is no balance in the game, they have no idea what they are doing.
Aethrys May 8, 2024 @ 11:22am 
I keep seeing this brought up, can anyone explain further for someone who's never played hello neighbor? I thought it was some stealth puzzle game. Is there actually some weapon (im)balance? Can you headshot the neighbor instead of solving puzzles or something?
David Davidson May 8, 2024 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by Aethrys:
I keep seeing this brought up, can anyone explain further for someone who's never played hello neighbor? I thought it was some stealth puzzle game. Is there actually some weapon (im)balance? Can you headshot the neighbor instead of solving puzzles or something?
The wiki article I linked sums up his actions.

He removed core features and said "players don't want gimmicks" when the players absolutely wanted features, such as hiding under beds in a stealth game.
He removed open world and said "players don't want an open world" when players want an open world.
He said that the final version was just a test map.
Then bailed from the company.

Here is a more in depth video on Hello Neoghbour"
Last edited by David Davidson; May 8, 2024 @ 11:26am
Evilphd May 8, 2024 @ 11:28am 
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Enough with the witch hunt troll posts. Go play something else if all you people want is to wipe out the company for [reasons]
dyra55 May 8, 2024 @ 11:28am 
This makes surprisingly a lot of sense

Originally posted by David Davidson:
Here is a more in depth video on Hello Neoghbour"

Oh yeah i remember watching this one
Khloros May 8, 2024 @ 11:30am 
Yeah the eruptor if they are removing the shrapnel to prevent a once in a blue moon event from happening, needs like a 100-200 damage boost. It should be at minimum doing 600 damage if they are removing that shrapnel from it.
Or better yet, just reduce the range at which shrapnel travels.
Rincewind May 8, 2024 @ 11:31am 
Everyone which is doing the intellectually dishonest tired non-argument that everything is "situational" are being misled by their peers on discord and the dev "we aschually buffed it".

This balance dev. I dont have words for it. He needs to nerf his descision making, the size of his ego and buff his ability to analyze things critically.

Or they are not playing above 5.

You need to understand that if your loadout cant deal with 1-3 bile titans, multiple swarms of hunters, armored mediums and alteast 3-5 chargers at the same time; its not viable.
[SCZ]Celestrian May 8, 2024 @ 11:31am 
Originally posted by Raeniko:
What the ♥♥♥♥?
:plusone:
Yuh May 8, 2024 @ 11:32am 
This is horrible. That guy ruined everything and he'll do it again... I knew it!
David Davidson May 8, 2024 @ 11:33am 
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Originally posted by Evilphd:
Enough with the witch hunt troll posts. Go play something else if all you people want is to wipe out the company for [reasons]
Witch hunt troll post?

My brother in christ, what have you been smoking?

Read the OP, see the bit where I said I don't want the guy fired, even though he singlehandedly destroyed a game, I just want him under manager who plays the game and can say "no, terrible decision" and have the power of veto when they say it.
As this dev has a long history of misrepresebting the truth to serve his interests and a long history of ignoring his player base.

It's happening again, so a manager who can reel things in would be in order.
Smoku Znad Potoku May 8, 2024 @ 11:34am 
Yeah, I learned today as well that this guy completely doesn't know what he's doing...
Damn, this game will die sooner than I thought because right we have literal confirmation that all weapons will be nerfed to the ground, yikes
Last edited by Smoku Znad Potoku; May 8, 2024 @ 11:35am
GHDW May 8, 2024 @ 11:36am 
[mal'srecation.gif]
I'm speechless, and it all makes sense.
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