Change your review back to negative. Sony lied.

[CerusSerenade]

Sony has still not changed the restricted regions. They are going to activate PSN later, and you ate it up because you took words said on Social Media as some sort of victory.

You were played like a fiddle.

"Steam decides what regions are restricted or not-"

No, stop, bad. Don't believe what some rando on Twitter says. If Sony wanted the restrictions lifted on those regions, it would have been done in an hour, let alone that day.

Change your reviews back to negative, they're still aiming to release PSN requirements.

[CerusSerenade]

Originally posted by Good Old Jim:

Originally posted by AoD_lexandro:

You can ask. You cannot demand Valve act in a manner that opens them up to law suits. It is an offence to knowingly sell defective products. It does not matter what region they do it in, as US company they can be sued in and sanctioned by US courts. Automated refunds take several days in regions outside the US, in some cases 5-7 days. Again until Valve process all refunds that are required by law, there can be no change in its status in alternate regions.

Also HD2 is wholly owned by Sony. Sony owns the IP and AH are only under contract to make the game. They cannot make any demands, as they could simply be released from contract and another developer given the IP to work on if the demands were deemed excessive.

Exactly, and to everyone yelling about how it only took them a day or two to remove the access from Countries remember it was almost surely a form of damage control done in haste to limit people buying the game who could not then play it. It was already a ♥♥♥♥ show due to Sony and Arrowheads oversight. Now that things have calmed down they are probably wanting to come up with a more solid solution, I'm sure Steam doesn't want to risk relisting these countries if Sony is gunna pull more BS.

Again-

If they were going to ACTUALLY walk back the PSN account requirement, there wouldn't be any sort of legal issue with unrestricting the STILL restricted countries.

[BCFreeman]

I still can't buy this game in PH Steam store. Ignoring HD2 now going forward.

[Good Old Jim]

Originally posted by CerusSerenade:

Originally posted by Good Old Jim:

Exactly, and to everyone yelling about how it only took them a day or two to remove the access from Countries remember it was almost surely a form of damage control done in haste to limit people buying the game who could not then play it. It was already a ♥♥♥♥ show due to Sony and Arrowheads oversight. Now that things have calmed down they are probably wanting to come up with a more solid solution, I'm sure Steam doesn't want to risk relisting these countries if Sony is gunna pull more BS.

Again-

If they were going to ACTUALLY walk back the PSN account requirement, there wouldn't be any sort of legal issue with unrestricting the STILL restricted countries.

low reading comp dude.

[Kaidalen]

Originally posted by CerusSerenade:

Sony has still not changed the restricted regions. They are going to activate PSN later, and you ate it up because you took words said on Social Media as some sort of victory.

You were played like a fiddle.

"Steam decides what regions are restricted or not-"

No, stop, bad. Don't believe what some rando on Twitter says. If Sony wanted the restrictions lifted on those regions, it would have been done in an hour, let alone that day.

Change your reviews back to negative, they're still aiming to release PSN requirements.

You do understand that SOME countries block certain video games. right?

[GHDW]

It will stay negative because I know Soyny will rear its ugly head eventually, both baskinrobins and alexus bringer of hisideaofbalance are still employed, and the anti-cheat crashes temperature monitoring apps.

[Six]

Honestly, the only thing I wish we would've done is show this same type of support/enthusiasm to allow Xbox players onto the platform. I know some y'all don't like them, but let's all be honest... The console wars? They're f---king dumb. The whole concept is just which dumb-ified PC runs the best.

Only console I'll unload my Taco Bell/Chipotle bowel infusion on is the Nintendo Switch for literally being beat by an iPad at CPU performance and display quality as well as refresh rate.

[Major_Tinz]

I couldn't buy it even if I wanted to, as my "country" is not accepted by PSN, despite being part of Britain (Yes, Sony really is that dumb!) :D

[CerusSerenade]

Originally posted by Kaidalen:

Originally posted by CerusSerenade:

Sony has still not changed the restricted regions. They are going to activate PSN later, and you ate it up because you took words said on Social Media as some sort of victory.

You were played like a fiddle.

"Steam decides what regions are restricted or not-"

No, stop, bad. Don't believe what some rando on Twitter says. If Sony wanted the restrictions lifted on those regions, it would have been done in an hour, let alone that day.

Change your reviews back to negative, they're still aiming to release PSN requirements.

You do understand that SOME countries block certain video games. right?

And that is NOT the case here, these regions were not blocked prior to SONY'S actions, you have made an assumption that is entirely fictitious in nature.

Originally posted by Good Old Jim:

Originally posted by CerusSerenade:

Again-

If they were going to ACTUALLY walk back the PSN account requirement, there wouldn't be any sort of legal issue with unrestricting the STILL restricted countries.

low reading comp dude.

Then by all means it should be simple for you to actually show how my logic is flawed rather than going "nUh uH!!!"

Your entire argument that Steam is "being careful" would require there to be a reason to be careful in the first place. If they were really walking back the PSN account requirement, there is no reason to be careful.

Your argument that it was Steam that is holding things up is a baseless assumption that doesn't coincide with the evidence given that SONY'S the one that wanted to restrict access in line with PSN account availability... after getting all the money they could through fraud.

[CerusSerenade]

bumping to compete with rage baiting topics

[Paulie]

I'll still play this game, but its not receiving any more of my money. I know this game will come under attack from PSN again. PSN is a trojan horse friends. dont let it near your rig.

[Midas]

CEO is trying to get them relisted.

[CerusSerenade]

Originally posted by Paulie:

I'll still play this game, but its not receiving any more of my money. I know this game will come under attack from PSN again. PSN is a trojan horse friends. dont let it near your rig.

Acceptable.

Originally posted by Midas:

CEO is trying to get them relisted.

Arrowhead Game Studios is not Sony, and do not have the authority to do so. Sony is the one lying and tricking their customers, and they own the IP and game rights.

[Midas]

Originally posted by CerusSerenade:

Originally posted by Paulie:

I'll still play this game, but its not receiving any more of my money. I know this game will come under attack from PSN again. PSN is a trojan horse friends. dont let it near your rig.

Acceptable.

Originally posted by Midas:

CEO is trying to get them relisted.

Arrowhead Game Studios is not Sony, and do not have the authority to do so. Sony is the one lying and tricking their customers, and they own the IP and game rights.

https://x.com/HelldiversAlert/status/1788380533120201105

[Metalshock]

Originally posted by CerusSerenade:

Originally posted by Good Old Jim:

low reading comp dude.

Then by all means it should be simple for you to actually show how my logic is flawed rather than going "nUh uH!!!"

Your entire argument that Steam is "being careful" would require there to be a reason to be careful in the first place. If they were really walking back the PSN account requirement, there is no reason to be careful.

Your argument that it was Steam that is holding things up is a baseless assumption that doesn't coincide with the evidence given that SONY'S the one that wanted to restrict access in line with PSN account availability... after getting all the money they could through fraud.

That's actually rather simple; once bitten, twice shy.

If people, honest consumers who really don't lose much if Sony doesn't prove they're going to actually do something, as they live in regions where the game is still accessible and playable, are still demanding Sony show more than just a tweet saying "we heard you and are backtracking"...

What do you think Valve, who could be held accountable for being an accessory to fraud if they allowed Sony to sell in those countries without actually letting those players play the game they paid for, would be demanding of Sony? If Valve just took Sony at their word and Sony turned around and did it again, Valve would stand to lose a lot of money in legal fees, forget about if a court actually finds them complicit and orders them to pay damages.

Overall, I believe this situation is without precedent. This is, as far as I am aware, the first time a major publisher with a lot of eyes on them attempted, again either by criminal negligence or deliberate intent, to preform fraud of this scale on Steam. Valve's actions around this situation going forward would need to be careful, as it would not only decide if they can be sued for their part in this, but also if they can discourage other publishers from ever doing this again on steam.

Finally, I will note again that we have no evidence that it was just Sony or just Steam that made this change. All we have is proof the change happened, not who did it.

[🥃 Marceline]

May 10th and still not a single change happened.