High Cpu usage with AMD cpu? Might be your ram.. This is what I did to fix it..

[EastCoastGamingHFX]

I did this and lowered my cpu % from 100% with 50-60% after while running Helldivers 2.

This has to with some overclocking really more like adjusting. This has to be done in your Bios. I am just saying what I did for it to work for me. This will be longish. You should be able to do this with Intel as well. Just different steps for intel.. Don't ask me. I don't have intel but should be the same idea.

***** I am NOT responsible for any thing that might happen in a bad manner. DO this at your own risk**** Even though you should be fine just saying.

I will try to be as detailed as possible..

My specs for this PC..

CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Model CMK64GX4M2E3200C16 with a ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS mobo a AMD Ryzen 7 5700x 8 Core with a ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 3060 V2 OC Edition 12GB GDDR6.

A friend I play with asked me to look at my ram to make sure it was correct. As he was checking on this himself. Which I didn't when I put this together last year..

He might see this and if you do.. Comment on something I missed or some other notes.

So to start download these. You can uninstall them after.

Aida64 Extreme (it's a trial version. It's all you need. This will run benchmarks for your Read and Latency for your ram.

The second is..

Zen Timings this will show you all kinds of stuff. Most of it we won't care about.. at least for me I don't. This will show you what your ram is currently set to. This is important to compare with what I will have below.

By correct I mean in dual channel mode where I have 4 slots and 2 stick of ram. It wasn't. I didn't even think about it when I put it in last year.

If your mobo has 2 slots for ram and both have ram in them it should automatically be in Dual Channel. If you have 4 slots and 2 sticks like me. They have to be in certain slots. Slot 2 and 4 to enable dual channel. 4 being the furthest away from your CPU and 1 the closest. (check your mobo manual to be sure) and if you have all 4 filled your set.

I also had to fix the Dram timing in my bios to match the recommend profile for my ram. What I am showing you do to should use the preloaded profile on the ram.. But if you need it you can get this on NewEgg etc. just look up the ram you have and look at the specs. It should be listed like.. Timing 16-20-20-38. Like my ram is.

You might need those numbers FOR YOUR RAM. Not the ones I listed here.. Write that down and the voltage just in case (you should NOT have to change this)

Now run Aida64. * Pref. with nothing barely running at all for best numbers for a baseline*

At the very top you will see a row of icons. Click the ram one..

When the box pops up. Double click the box under where it says read and when that's finished do the same for latency. Note these numbers. We are gonna use them to compare after. If your ram is already in dual channel mode this number won't change..

Now, run Zen timing. When it comes up on the left you'll see a column that has tCL, tRCDWR, tRCDRD, tRP, tRAS. Compare those numbers to the timing numbers you found for your ram..if they don't match we want them to.

You'll notice there's 4 numbers but 5 listed here. If you need to manually enter these.. just use what ever number that is listed twice for the other value. But we shouldn't need to do that..

Now it's scary time... Shut your pc down and put your ram into dual channel IF you need to then power up when done .... Otherwise restart.

Then enter your bios on startup or restart.. In there make sure that XMP is enabled and NOT set to Auto this is important. we want to use our own numbers/profile on the ram.

Some mobo's allow you to make a profile... If your's can I suggest you save the current one and make a new one for this.. so you don't loose anything if something happens.. if it don't.. don't worry

We need to turn on DOCP. (Direct Overclocking Profile) This is in Ai tweaker. So go there.. If you don't see that at the top.. turn on advanced (f7) I think it is..

In here you will see Ai Overclock Tuner.. Turn this from Auto to DOCP standard. With that the boxes below should change and with that docp ddr4 or 5 what ever you have-3200 or again what you have...and the stock profile settings for your ram.

Just make sure your memory Freq. is set to 3200. You don't need to change anything else in there unless you know 100% wth your doing. Otherwise NO TOUCHY.. NO TOUCH.. NO TOUCH

Now.. save and exit and restart normally.

IF for some reason your PC fails to boot and gives you an error and you can't get back into the bios.. * hopefully everything should be fine *. You'll need to clear your Cmos. Again some mobo's are different and have a button do it.. Refer to your mobo manual to check how to clear it to be sure.

Normally you can do it by shutting your pc down and unplug it and press and hold down your power button. This will drain all power from the mobo. Now Remove the flat battery. wait about 1-5 mins as most state. Put the battery back in, plug in your pc and turn it on.. Your settings should be back to default in your bios and you should boot up.

Now. if you booted and everything is fine. Run Aida64 again and compare the numbers. in dual channel the read number should be doubled and the latency should be lower..for me it went down by 10.

Now if you run Zen timings The numbers should be different from before and match the default profile that you set in your bios

Now.. the test.. Start up Helldivers 2. Get on your ship and look in your task manager and see how your cpu is doing. I hope its running a lot less than 100% by a lot.

Hopefully this helps you. Let me know how you made out.

[EastCoastGamingHFX]

Just replying here to bump this. It got buried from this morning.

[YMD]

How to fix? Don't buy AMD. There easy solve.

[EastCoastGamingHFX]

If your comments are dont buy amd or something stupid like this last idiot. I'll just block you.

[retroquark]

Yeah.. the config problems that turn up really are reaching peak. Guess I could add that if your ram is advertised as.. you know.. 3200Mhz with xmp-profiles - then it needs to be set either with xmp-timing(xmp is a bs extension to the spd-profiles, btw. Essentially enabling ram-manu... ram-brands more like.. to sell you relatively slow ram with extremely high timing to reach that max speed). Or else to a default with some other stable timing at the desired speed. The automatic "overclocker" function that some mainboards have is a good idea, like above.

But note that you're not really going to see huge gains from overclocking ram in general nowadays (unless in very specific circumstances). What you're going to see the biggest gains from is switching from some automatic downclock (which does happen on some motherboards) to the timing and speed the ram actually should run at. Or else from a bad overclock to a stable timing.

This is the same between AMD and Intel.

Once upon a time, overclocking to get to 30fps, or to reach some 33ms on a thread response, was a huge challenge. And the payoff was there, right.. So it was worth it to burn a few k6s or 3dfx ram chips to manage a really good overclock.

Now, though - you don't need to overclock: you need to underclock, so the boost thresholds are higher, to better shave off the fps-drops at the fps-target. And the amount of just complete idiocy that turns up - even on OEM-specified boxes that come with specific overclocking tools set by the OEM - is just amazing.

It's like people are just getting inversely twice as dumb as tech gets faster or something.. Moron's Law..

[EastCoastGamingHFX]

Originally posted by Hellswimmers 3:

Thank you for the advice, but i would rather let these so called devs fix their game rather than tinker at such a low level, when this ONLY happens in HD2

This will help your prefromance overall.

[ZergSquad]

AMD is always got good performance boost from OC'ing ram
So you just overclock your pc and got fps boost.
This not connected to ingame problems anyhow

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by EastCoastGamingHFX:

Originally posted by Hellswimmers 3:

Thank you for the advice, but i would rather let these so called devs fix their game rather than tinker at such a low level, when this ONLY happens in HD2

This will help your prefromance overall.

My words of advice: it is futile to try to argue with reason with those kind of people, no matter how right you are.

Even my stuff gets ignored, where I tell people to clean up their cache, and people just reply with that the developers should do it. So ~ save your nerves. Not everyone can be saved.

[retroquark]

Originally posted by Hellswimmers 3:

this ONLY happens in HD2

...yes. The engine on a car only blows up on a specific highway. Well done. 10/10 logic.

[Whispdragoon62]

Originally posted by ZergSquad:

AMD is always got good performance boost from OC'ing ram
So you just overclock your pc and got fps boost.
This not connected to ingame problems anyhow

Just curious, how often do you have to verify steam files? (:

[SnowMew]

One thing I see a lot of people not talking about is AMDs Infinity Fabric (Zen1-3 at least). Always have it set to 1:1 ratio with your RAM. Otherwise you will get a huge latency penalty (3200MT/s = 1600MHz, 3600MT/s = 1800MHz, etc).

Not all CPUs can run crazy high Infinity Fabric speeds, usually 1800-1900MHz, so 3600-3800MT/s is about as high as you'd probably want to aim for without going too deep down the overclocking rabbithole and potential issues.

3600MT/CL16 is usually the go to for Zen3. It's cheap and most CPUs will do 1800MHz Infinity Fabric out of the box. If you want more performance, just bump the voltages up and lower your timings.

[EastCoastGamingHFX]

This is not for an fps boost. This helps lower(for me it did) the cpu usage in hd2. If your trying to run say obs and hd2 at the same time on a single pc you can't. Not with good results anyway.

[retroquark]

^thank you - yes. (Although standard settings will avoid the kind of dips people are describing...).

Originally posted by Hellswimmers 3:

Originally posted by retroquark:

...yes. The engine on a car only blows up on a specific highway. Well done. 10/10 logic.

If that happens, then its not a highway, it's a dirt road. Thats my point

No, the logic is sound, right. Because the car will run around on the back roads in second gear just fine. It's when you rev it up for the first time ever that it blows up, and that's going to happen at that same highway every time.

[Ethical Lune]

I've played the game with both an Intel and AMD CPU and it's always way higher in CPU utilization than any game I've ever played, don't think AMD has anything to do with it.
It's probably just wonky code that uses way too much CPU power for whatever reason and is made worse by the GameGuard crap.

[retroquark]

Originally posted by Hellswimmers 3:

Originally posted by retroquark:

^thank you - yes. (Although standard settings will avoid the kind of dips people are describing...).

No, the logic is sound, right. Because the car will run around on the back roads in second gear just fine. It's when you rev it up for the first time ever that it blows up, and that's going to happen at that same highway every time.

Your analogy is not very correct. Its simple. Almost every other game that looks better runs better..It means there is something wrong with the game, and it can be fixed. It's better to wait for that before you start tweaking stuff that you might regret

That's true. But if you have the issue the guy describes, that the pc is set up with really bad timing (like the other guy who has been posting about high cpu load on a woefully overclocked 5800x3d - a processor famous for having exactly 0% of a successful overclock) - then this is going to affect every game you are running.

A game that has a single thread running on one core (the back roads) is not going to run into as big issues. But everything else, any Unreal Engine game, anything running with multiple threads, anything with resubmits to gpu ram, anything with realtime physics - literally anything whatsoever made in the last couple of decades, with some notable exceptions (COD, for example) is going to run badly with a setup like that. The single-threaded wonders are also going to have issues if you then run screen-captures or discord on the side. Any amount of network issues will turn up if you suddenly get really low timing response on device drivers. Sound stuttering should be a regular occurrence, hilarious fps-drops, total lack of peak fps thanks to gpu never being saturated, etc., etc. These issues will happen. They might not be terrible and obvious right away in some cases - but they will still be there even if you run something really light.

I.e., the car will have been badly tuned. And it will blow up on the same highway every time, because that's where you rev the car.

[EastCoastGamingHFX]

Originally posted by Whispdragoon62:

Originally posted by ZergSquad:

AMD is always got good performance boost from OC'ing ram
So you just overclock your pc and got fps boost.
This not connected to in game problems anyhow

Just curious, how often do you have to verify steam files? (:

I myself haven't done that in a while.

I see that people are talking about the advantages and what not. That's great. I see people not wanting to do what I got posted here and just blame and wait on the devs to fix it..

That's up to you. But you can potentially fix it yourself.

Then again it comes down to a lot of other issues that I have seen over the past.. say 5 to 10 years. People are getting damn lazy and do not want to do anything for them self and want someone else to fix it.

I gave people an option that may help, but are too lazy or stubborn to do it on their own.
I'm sure these are the people that just complain about something just to complain about something.

Anyway, I tried to help. But that's as far as I'm going.