calling in the the extraction ship early is a good strategy.

[_Mud$]

Everyone is afraid to do this though, but, its really good to have it ready to go anytime.

Why do people panic and lose their minds if you do this?

Are you afraid people will leave early without doing the side objectives?

[GHDW]

Originally posted by Midas:

Doesn't it just leave if you move out of the area before it lands?

Only if the mission timer expires, otherwise it will wait and kill anything it sees.

[Kaine]

Originally posted by Dallagen:

Originally posted by Mr. Bix:

last time i gave someone the benefit of the doubt on this it cost us every sample we had

but it cost him all rewards for the mission outright when i kicked him

sounds like you're ♥♥♥♥ at the game

Umm no..Sounds like some ♥♥♥♥ boarded when everyone was still way out of range and all the samples they were bringing back got lost because no one else made it.

[ParasiteX]

It's only a good strategy if you trust the people in your squad. Or communicate well with them... Otherwise is an incredibly bad idea and you should never do it without the whole team being on board with it..

[Pimpin Pippin]

frankly in randoms i would love if the host had to approve the call for the pelican.

people delay completing the main objectives because doing those, supposedly, increases the power of the bug/bot spawns in the mission.

[Midas]

Originally posted by GHDW:

Originally posted by Midas:

Doesn't it just leave if you move out of the area before it lands?

Only if the mission timer expires, otherwise it will wait and kill anything it sees.

I could have sworn calling it in early if you leave the area it starts a 20sec timer where it says there are no helldivers nearby and the landing will be aborted

[Lux-X-Tenebri]

Originally posted by New To This:

Call it in early?

....One guy boards it.

Other 3 are coming back with the samples.

Peli leaves with that 1 guy.

Yeeeeah, gonna have to strongly disagree.

ZERO reason to call peli in "early"
Early means that the goals of the host are not done yet.

So early, is STILL EARLY.

If the goals are done (Speed run, or samples, or w/e your boat is)
Then you CANNOT call the peli in early, because the host has completed their goal.

If you are the host?
you can absolutely call in peli whenever you want, because when you do?
It means you are satisfied.

Peli can also be called in, land, and be abandoned!
However this runs the risk of activating the peli first guy in take off glitch.
Because when the peli sits afk, it can glitch.

All in all.

An EARLY call in, is still EARLY.

The goals of the host? What the f u c k is with the host god complex. They need to take the fake host thing out of your hands cause such a insignificant thing causes you to become drunk with power. You aren't even truly hosting the game. If you were then the match would end when you left but it endures on cause its actually hosted on the server. I love how you select a mission on your ship and think you are the freaking generals of the universe. Its like your all the Hitlers of Helldivers.

[Pinkeh]

Pelican attracts the entire bot army on helldive difficulty. Calling it early is a death trap.

[GHDW]

Originally posted by Midas:

I could have sworn calling it in early if you leave the area it starts a 20sec timer where it says there are no helldivers nearby and the landing will be aborted

That's right, until the Pelican can "see the extraction zone" that 20 second cancellation timer starts if you leave the extraction point.
You stand just inside the zone until the Pelican arrives, when you hear "see the extraction zone" step outside that area, the pilot will "Ask all Helldivers to come to the extraction point" and you just earned a flying autocannon.

[Chaos]

If you call in too early and can't hold the landing zone, which mean letting the pelican took too much damage, they might just fly off on their own, not to mention the risk of trusting your teammate to not be a jackass and just enter it alone.

The risk factor of having to trust your teammate far outweight the benefit for me.

But there are a nice pelican blueballing trick that make them fly over the landed zone forever and act as a flying AC turret until you need it to land...but as I said, trusting some rando is too much to ask.

[Midas]

Originally posted by GHDW:

Originally posted by Midas:

I could have sworn calling it in early if you leave the area it starts a 20sec timer where it says there are no helldivers nearby and the landing will be aborted

That's right, until the Pelican can "see the extraction zone" that 20 second cancellation timer starts if you leave the extraction point.
You stand just inside the zone until the Pelican arrives, when you hear "see the extraction zone" step outside that area, the pilot will "Ask all Helldivers to come to the extraction point" and you just earned a flying autocannon.

Oh interesting. I'll have to try that next time, thanks.

[Dain_Ironfoot]

One could argue it's more prone to glitches if you call it early. I guess as long as the person with all the samples gets on first... sometimes the ship sits around too long, gets damaged and wants to leave immediately.

[Coffee]

If you time it right, you can call in the Pelican after having done the primary and leave the extraction zone while it's landing to make it hover in circles, firing on any targets from the air. It will stay there the entire mission. But the moment you step in radius, the Pelican will land. Handy trick with a well-coordinated team, but not recommended with a pick-up group. There's always "that one person" who will leave with zero samples while the squad is holding everything or handling business.

[Revolver Chocolot]

Originally posted by Lux-X-Tenebri:

Originally posted by New To This:

Call it in early?

....One guy boards it.

Other 3 are coming back with the samples.

Peli leaves with that 1 guy.

Yeeeeah, gonna have to strongly disagree.

ZERO reason to call peli in "early"
Early means that the goals of the host are not done yet.

So early, is STILL EARLY.

If the goals are done (Speed run, or samples, or w/e your boat is)
Then you CANNOT call the peli in early, because the host has completed their goal.

If you are the host?
you can absolutely call in peli whenever you want, because when you do?
It means you are satisfied.

Peli can also be called in, land, and be abandoned!
However this runs the risk of activating the peli first guy in take off glitch.
Because when the peli sits afk, it can glitch.

All in all.

An EARLY call in, is still EARLY.

The goals of the host? What the f u c k is with the host god complex. They need to take the fake host thing out of your hands cause such a insignificant thing causes you to become drunk with power. You aren't even truly hosting the game. If you were then the match would end when you left but it endures on cause its actually hosted on the server. I love how you select a mission on your ship and think you are the freaking generals of the universe. Its like your all the Hitlers of Helldivers.

It's just common courtesy. If you join someone else's mission then you should respect their goal/aim of the drop. You joined THEM. It's nothing to do with 'power' at all. Just because they aren't dedicated hosts means nothing and is irrelevant. You still have your 'power' to make decisions independently but doing so at the expense of the host and/or his parties enjoyment/aim is just a ♥♥♥♥ move as a rando.

Jumping into someone else's game and getting upset because you don't decide the direction of the mission isn't a god complex on the host's part. That's severe entitlement on your part. If you can't handle not making a decision or at least not having the final say then I suggest you only host your own missions. Now you're god! Problem solved.

[Enkidu]

Originally posted by _Mud$Linux:

Are you afraid people will leave early without doing the side objectives?

Yes.

In my experience with most randos they'll GTFO as soon as humanly possible.
I've had an especially poor time during Eradication missions where we complete the obj and everyone immediately runs for the ship despite me saying "Wait! They don't spawn anymore! Help me get samples!"
Suggesting that we remain to farm samples actually got me kicked from a game today, lol.

[sweng]

Originally posted by Quackie:

If you time it right, you can call in the Pelican after having done the primary and leave the extraction zone while it's landing to make it hover in circles, firing on any targets from the air. It will stay there the entire mission. But the moment you step in radius, the Pelican will land. Handy trick with a well-coordinated team, but not recommended with a pick-up group. There's always "that one person" who will leave with zero samples while the squad is holding everything or handling business.

Also you have to hold the landing zone for few minute. I had a game where host said he will wait for us to collect sample and two of them are at the extraction however they get in the ship once arrive because cant handle the horde. Understandable and i even doubt they can hold that long when they call early