Charger

[Sera]

Is it just me or Charger was changed? I dive to the side at the last moment when they charge me(like i've alway do before) and they can still pull a U turn sharp enough to turn around and hit me, i've never have this problem before.

[hotmatrixx]

Don't Dive. run at them then 90 and run. if you dive you have to go through recovery animations. stay on your feet, you can output way more damage, and the aim is easier when they overshoot.

And yes, they've changed something, because now Chargers can 'hip thrust' infinitely.

[Malidictus]

Publicado originalmente por 4 Democrussy™:

Don't Dive. run at them then 90 and run. if you dive you have to go through recovery animations. stay on your feet, you can output way more damage, and the aim is easier when they overshoot.

You also have a much larger hitbox when you dive, meaning you get hit more often. Chargers can be dodged by running sideways. They can actually also be dodged by walking sideways. You'll get a "flash", but those trigger on near misses, not actual hits. Worse come to worst, you might get nudged without taking damage.

I'm genuinely not sure what the point of the dolphin dive is in this game. It makes you more likely to get hit, rather than less and it forces you through a recovery animation. Feels like an absolute sucker trap.

[PhellAsleep]

Diving or just side stepping them still works for me.

[Nihil]

Publicado originalmente por 4 Democrussy™:

Don't Dive. run at them then 90 and run. if you dive you have to go through recovery animations. stay on your feet, you can output way more damage, and the aim is easier when they overshoot.

And yes, they've changed something, because now Chargers can 'hip thrust' infinitely.

This!
I learned a long time ago that during the dive animation the charger's hitbox can still hit you. And always could. You get hit even if it doesn't look like you could be hit.
But running head on tovards you and when you almost reach each other, just pass it from left or right and it won't be able to do a sharp turn, instead it will stop.

[Sera]

Publicado originalmente por PhellAsleep:

Diving or just side stepping them still works for me.

i also tried side stepping but still get hit by that same Charger.

[Sera]

Publicado originalmente por Nihil:

Publicado originalmente por 4 Democrussy™:

Don't Dive. run at them then 90 and run. if you dive you have to go through recovery animations. stay on your feet, you can output way more damage, and the aim is easier when they overshoot.

And yes, they've changed something, because now Chargers can 'hip thrust' infinitely.

This!
I learned a long time ago that during the dive animation the charger's hitbox can still hit you. And always could. You get hit even if it doesn't look like you could be hit.
But running head on tovards you and when you almost reach each other, just pass it from left or right and it won't be able to do a sharp turn, instead it will stop.

Not to mention how the game work you will be dmg+knocked back if you touch the front legs even if the Charger is standing still.

[Sera]

Publicado originalmente por 4 Democrussy™:

Don't Dive. run at them then 90 and run. if you dive you have to go through recovery animations. stay on your feet, you can output way more damage, and the aim is easier when they overshoot.

And yes, they've changed something, because now Chargers can 'hip thrust' infinitely.

The thing is before this the Charger will come to a stop after it missed me then turn around and start charging again, the problem is like i said it can pull a sharper U turn now.

[Tam]

You have to let them gain speed
If you stand still and dive in the last moment they always slide some distance, if you are trying to dodge and then dive they make U turn

[Sera]

Publicado originalmente por Tamm:

You have to let them gain speed
If you stand still and dive in the last moment they always slide some distance, if you are trying to dodge and then dive they make U turn

I tried both diving and side stepping at the last second.

[Good Old Jim]

It does seem like AI and game mechanics can change game to game. Sometimes I can casually walk around chargers. Other times those lil bastards are homing rockets.

[Dasmortas]

yeah never dive unless you think really need to

best run at them turn left or right so easy now I can do it heavy armour

same with BT if can't out run them just run threw right between the legs

again with BT if your using nuke to kill them

drop nuke just fraction front them and bait them to spit on you never fails they stop and BOOM direct hit with nuke