bile/ nursing spewer NEEDS to be fixed asap

[Falmingkitter]

the bile spray attacks for both of these bugs have been broken since the game launched, including the bile titan to a lesser degree. All 3 of them will do damage to you without any of the particles even coming close to you, and the spewers' spray can instantly kill a full hp helldiver in the first second of it's spray. You cannot duck or dive out of the way, nor can you outrun or move to the side, and the rumor that you can shoot them in the face to stop them from spewing is just blatantly false- coming face to face with a spewer is a death sentence 90% of the time, you might as well have a 500kg drop in front of you

The issue with bile titans is their spray is 10x larger than it is visually, and if you try to run or duck under a titan to avoid it's spray you'll be instantly killed even if -visually- none of it comes anywhere near you

[Midas]

Originally posted by Falmingkitter:

and the rumor that you can shoot them in the face to stop them from spewing is just blatantly false-

Weird. I do exactly that all the time.

[Falmingkitter]

Originally posted by Midas:

Originally posted by Falmingkitter:

and the rumor that you can shoot them in the face to stop them from spewing is just blatantly false-

Weird. I do exactly that all the time.

I've used all variants of breaker, the sickle, and a liberator concussive/ standard, none of them reliably interrupt a bile spewer more than 20% of the time

[Sera]

>" and the rumor that you can shoot them in the face to stop them from spewing is just blatantly false"
That is actually true but you need something with strong stagger like the Punisher not to mention shooting the head doesn't count, you have to hit it in the mouth.
What i hate about them is they are way too tanky for what they are, their inflated belly should be considered a weakspot imo, also the spit attack is weird because there are time they close in after they spit and another time they walk two steps and start spitting again.

[Sk[A]rMo'Ry2012]

Just walk sideways

[gachi is manly]

I just wish hitting the weakpoint of their head/face was more consistent. Talking about the bile spewers with armored heads, not the nursing spewers that lack armor on the head.

It feels like it's harder than it should be to hit their head weakpoint. It's already a small target, usually obscured by terrain until they're about to spew on you. Especially annoying when they're in mortar mode where they practically have their heads buried in the sand.

It's weird, because I can nail the heavily armored warrior bugs in the head without issue, even when they're hunkered down which lowers their head hitbox even more. But half the time I hit a bile spewer in the head, I don't actually hit the weakspot.

[Kleiner's final Form]

In my experience it isn't the bile that has broken hit registration, it's the slow down. It usually applies a full second before the green goo reaches you, while not even being part of the bile attack itself. in 90% of cases I get hit with the slow down without taking an ounce of damage from the bile.

[Daos]

they told me they did less damage. piss off
it will one shot me with a tutch of its spite attack.
so you changed nothing or broke it again arrowhead.

literally fix your bugs

[Falmingkitter]

Originally posted by Sera:

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That is actually true but you need something with strong stagger like the Punisher not to mention shooting the head doesn't count, you have to hit it in the mouth.

A full magazine spray from a breaker even in the general direction of the head will inevitably hit the mouth

Originally posted by SkArMo'Ry2004:

Just walk sideways

you can run sideways and it doesn't save you

Originally posted by gachi is manly:

I just wish hitting the weakpoint of their head/face was more consistent. Talking about the bile spewers with armored heads, not the nursing spewers that lack armor on the head.

I think a sort of damage inconsistency is part of the Helldiver 2 core game design. you can hit a titan in the face with 4 disposable rockets and it wont die but sometimes one will die from 1 rocket, which is fine but the inconsistency rating for interrupting a bile spewer is roughly 8 failures to 1 success

[DustDevil]

You have to run to the side just as the spewer is about to launch its bile, as it raises it's head otherwise it's too late for you.

Impact grenades can take them down in one as long as you hit it.

[R.A.T. Army *MST3K*]

Originally posted by Midas:

Originally posted by Falmingkitter:

and the rumor that you can shoot them in the face to stop them from spewing is just blatantly false-

Weird. I do exactly that all the time.

It definitely is not false. I think certain guns have a stagger effect. I use the punisher, and it stops them from spewing and moving if I get the shot under their armor.

[The Dess 2023 GOTY Edition]

Originally posted by Falmingkitter:

the bile spray attacks for both of these bugs have been broken since the game launched, including the bile titan to a lesser degree. All 3 of them will do damage to you without any of the particles even coming close to you, and the spewers' spray can instantly kill a full hp helldiver in the first second of it's spray. You cannot duck or dive out of the way, nor can you outrun or move to the side, and the rumor that you can shoot them in the face to stop them from spewing is just blatantly false- coming face to face with a spewer is a death sentence 90% of the time, you might as well have a 500kg drop in front of you

The issue with bile titans is their spray is 10x larger than it is visually, and if you try to run or duck under a titan to avoid it's spray you'll be instantly killed even if -visually- none of it comes anywhere near you

Maybe a latency issue with your client? In the beginning I used to get capped by them all the time but just grew used to them now. The trick is to instantly change your direction the moment they throw their head back up spew. Very manageable.

[The Dess 2023 GOTY Edition]

Originally posted by SkArMo'Ry2004:

Just walk sideways

This also helps.

[Falmingkitter]

I don't think I've ever had any latency or lag in this game yet, regardless this happens both when I host and join another player

[Falmingkitter]

Originally posted by DustDevil:

You have to run to the side just as the spewer is about to launch its bile, as it raises it's head otherwise it's too late for you.

Impact grenades can take them down in one as long as you hit it.

As I've said in the initial post, literally no. I can be running perpendicular past a spewer and still get hit at a 45 degree angle. Either way the bile never visually hits so even ***IF*** the spewer is supposed to have such a massive area of attack, the visuals don't ever match up

[Wutever]

Originally posted by Falmingkitter:

Originally posted by Midas:

Weird. I do exactly that all the time.

I've used all variants of breaker, the sickle, and a liberator concussive/ standard, none of them reliably interrupt a bile spewer more than 20% of the time

Pretty sure the Concussive should be able to interrupt. Punisher / pre-nerf Slugger could for sure. Unless the Concussive is just below the stagger threshold for Spewers. That would be another nail in the coffin of an already dead gun lmao.

Also, you're probably dying to desync.