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Medium Pen vs Light Pen
If the order goes Light -> Medium -> Heavy I would expect guns that can penetrate medium to also penetrate light. The scorcher can penetrate striders front armor without issue as well as kill tanks.

I just used buffed Jar-5 which is explosive and medium penetrating and the shots were bouncing. I also felt that the liberator penetrator was underwhelming as well. I know i'm a moron but am I missing something?

Side note the Admirable admiral is probably the funniest rank i've ever seen
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Angarvin Apr 2, 2024 @ 2:59pm 
from what i understand scorcher doesn't penetrate striders, but since it has a noticable explosion radius, that explosion is what kills the pilot on the other side of the armor.

you can actually see that when you shoot them the hitmarker is double: first grey with the bounce icon and then red.

demolisher explosion is much smaller and is also, i think, directed (not circular like plasma's).
also demolisher shots will not bounce if you hit the crotch of the strider, not the cabin.
Last edited by Angarvin; Apr 2, 2024 @ 3:03pm
Firecam Apr 2, 2024 @ 3:01pm 
Shoot at your feet with the Jar-5, if you don't die it's not explosive.
EvolutionKills Apr 2, 2024 @ 3:07pm 
As said above, Scorcher has AOE. It's the same thing that makes the Grenade Launcher and Autocannon such great Scout Walker killers; they're really good at damaging the squishy pilot.

Also, correction on the UI. A red X means you are doing full damage. This is hitting an armor grade below your weapon's penetration capability (e.g. Liberator hitting unarmored, or a Slugger hitting light armor). A white X means you are penetrating, but doing less damage. This averages out to about a 40% damage reduction, or in other words your weapon is dealing just 60% of it's potential damage. This would be hitting a Brood Commander's head with the Liberator, where you are doing about 33 damage per hit instead of 55. Seeing a shot visible deflect, or seeing the shield icon next to your crosshairs means just that; your shots are deflecting and causing no damage. You'll see this when using light armor penetration weapons against medium armor (Devastator bodies, Hive Guardian front armor), or medium penetration weapons against heavy armor (Chargers, Bile Titans, Hulks, Annihilator Tanks).
Last edited by EvolutionKills; Apr 2, 2024 @ 3:12pm
Originally posted by Firecam:
Shoot at your feet with the Jar-5, if you don't die it's not explosive.
Its category is explosive tho...
EvolutionKills Apr 2, 2024 @ 3:10pm 
Originally posted by Firecam:
Shoot at your feet with the Jar-5, if you don't die it's not explosive.

Explosive damage =/= Having an AOE (area of effect)

For Example: the Liberator Concussive does deal explosive damage, but lacks an AOE. So it benefits from the Nursery Spewer's and Bile Spewer's 500% weakness to explosive damage, but cannot kill a Scout Walker pilot by shooting the front of the walker.
Last edited by EvolutionKills; Apr 2, 2024 @ 3:13pm
Myth Alric Apr 2, 2024 @ 3:11pm 
It is explosive so it does bonus damage against enemy weak points, though it doesn't do splash damage. The scorcher does splash damage which lets it get around the shield.
RAGEDog Apr 2, 2024 @ 3:12pm 
Originally posted by Gameboy:
Originally posted by Firecam:
Shoot at your feet with the Jar-5, if you don't die it's not explosive.
Its category is explosive tho...

The damage i think is classed as explosive so it does 100% damage vs things like the leg of a charger when the armor is gone.
wirelessfetus Apr 2, 2024 @ 3:12pm 
The plate in front of the striders is heavy armor I believe. Their torso/hip area is medium. You need to aim for that area with the Dominator. Fire quickly or on auto mode and they'll go down pretty quick due to its stagger.

The scorcher isn't penatrating the strider armor (nor is it actually penatrating tank armor). The scorcer does explosive damage. So the AOE explosion is reaching the bot behind the strider heavy armor plate. And its reaching the weak point vent of the tank when you shoot near it. That's how its killing those things.
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Date Posted: Apr 2, 2024 @ 2:54pm
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