Did the devs lie about the recommended specs?

[Baldwick]

Been having many issues with preformance and optimisation, I get frame drops despite having an RTX 3060, and an i7-10700KF, 16 gigs of RAM. Running the game on medium as well. I've heard of people with 4060 TI's getting frame drops as well, what's going on, did the developers lie?

[Baldwick]

Postat inițial de Suhu:

Postat inițial de Baldwick:

I want to believe you but people with 4060's can't achieve this, what do you think you are doing different from them when it comes from optimisation?

Main problem of the people is resolution. I'm not trying to prove anything here. Just from my practice of building PCs, I've noticed that people buy a powerful graphics card. They set the highest available resolution and expect 120 fps. It doesn't work that way. The higher the resolution of the pixels - the more power you need. If a player in 2k-4k at max settings gets 30 fps and drops on some 4090 it's normal.

Meanwhile i am sitting on my 1920x1080 without any problem.

I'm using 1920x1080

[Jack.]

Recommended settings are mostly set on 30 fps. Is this a bit scummy? Yeah but they all do it, and people should know to take those given settings with a grain of salt nowadays.
Worst optimisation in history? Hell no, did you try Starfield, Dragons Dogma 2 or any other triple A game lately?
Could it be better? Absolutely. This game is very CPU intensive.

Before I updated my CPU and RAM I had horrible drops aswell.
Now running with a 3060 Ti, i7 14700K, 32gb of RAM, installed on an SSD and running at 1080p with around 120 - 140 fps on High/Ultra / Native res. Only thing bothering me now are some crashes and connection issues here and there.

SSD or HDD?
More info on ur settings? GPU usage versus CPU usage ingame?
Post a pic of ur ingame settings.

Give us some more info so we can actually try to help instead of just yelling the optimisation sucks.

[Toombs]

I had no problems before the last update, now i keep crashing.

[NiflRav]

Postat inițial de Baldwick:

Postat inițial de Suhu:

Main problem of the people is resolution. I'm not trying to prove anything here. Just from my practice of building PCs, I've noticed that people buy a powerful graphics card. They set the highest available resolution and expect 120 fps. It doesn't work that way. The higher the resolution of the pixels - the more power you need. If a player in 2k-4k at max settings gets 30 fps and drops on some 4090 it's normal.

Meanwhile i am sitting on my 1920x1080 without any problem.

I'm using 1920x1080

Well, then check your settings. Lock the framerate in vsync. Put render scale to native. Turn off some flare lenses cuz it can eat a huge ammount of fps. And check it. I have open profile. 30+ hours zero problems, except crashes.

[BlackholeSun]

Postat inițial de Baldwick:

Been having many issues with preformance and optimisation, I get frame drops despite having an RTX 3060, and an i7-10700KF, 16 gigs of RAM. Running the game on medium as well. I've heard of people with 4060 TI's getting frame drops as well, what's going on, did the developers lie?

im running on high with 32 gigs of ram a 2070 super and an I7-9700F and your stuff seems better than mine so ive got no clue why you are having issues

[Alpacalypse]

Optimization tanked extremely heavily a few patches into the game and hasn't recovered since. At launch I think the recommended specs were fairly accurate, but they don't reflect reality anymore.
For reference my average FPS went from 120 to 90, and drops went from an absolute minimum of 100 to sub-60. No change in hardware, and drivers had no influence on it.

[Baldwick]

Postat inițial de Jack.:

Recommended settings are mostly set on 30 fps. Is this a bit scummy? Yeah but they all do it, and people should know to take those given settings with a grain of salt nowadays.
Worst optimisation in history? Hell no, did you try Starfield or any other triple A game lately?
Could it be better? Absolutely. This game is very CPU intensive.

Before I updated my CPU and RAM I had horrible drops aswell.
Now running with a 3060 Ti, i7 14700K, 32gb of RAM, installed on an SSD and running at 1080p with around 120 - 140 fps on High settings.

Are you running 1080, 1440 or even higher?
SSD or HDD?
More info on ur settings? GPU usage versus CPU usage ingame?

Give us some more info so we can actually try to help instead of just yelling the optimisation sucks.

Well what kind of info do you need,
My CPU usage caps at 50-60% while playing and my GPU usage is rather stable at around 70%, I dont have any background programs open excluding the Discord app and Steam itself. I have an SSD.

[Baldwick]

Postat inițial de Suhu:

Postat inițial de Baldwick:

I'm using 1920x1080

Well, then check your settings. Lock the framerate in vsync. Put render scale to native. Turn off some flare lenses cuz it can eat a huge ammount of fps. And check it. I have open profile. 30+ hours zero problems, except crashes.

My render scale has always been 1 below native

[Sadist_cain]

Postat inițial de Baldwick:

Postat inițial de Suhu:

Main problem of the people is resolution. I'm not trying to prove anything here. Just from my practice of building PCs, I've noticed that people buy a powerful graphics card. They set the highest available resolution and expect 120 fps. It doesn't work that way. The higher the resolution of the pixels - the more power you need. If a player in 2k-4k at max settings gets 30 fps and drops on some 4090 it's normal.

Meanwhile i am sitting on my 1920x1080 without any problem.

I'm using 1920x1080

Plug these settings in:

[Optimized Settings] :
-Object Detail Quality : High
-Render Distance : Ultra
-Shadow Quality : Medium or High
-Particle Quality : Low or Medium
-Reflection Quality : Low or Medium
-Space Quality : Low
-Ambient Occlusion : On
-Screen Space Global Illumination : Off
-Vegetation and Rubble Density : High
-Terrain Quality : Medium or High
-Volumetric Fog Quality: Low
-Volumetric Cloud Quality : Lowest
-Lighting Quality: Medium or High
-Anti Aliasing : On (personal preference)

Taken from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtM4ffG_zko

I could play at 1440 with a gtx1080 averaging 70fps with these settings and some upscaling, the Mrs has a very similar build to yours (9700kf, 3060, 16gb ram, 1080p) and she's running fine at 60, occasional dips to 40 but nothing earth shattering that wouldn't be totally mitigated by gsync.

Game is EXTREMELY CPU intensive compared to most anything else you've played so make sure everything set up right, XMP is enabled if you have it and that all your cooling is sufficient (and I mean actually sufficient, not the 99% of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who believe adequate cooling is somehow software related)

I'm now on a 3080, everything is maxed out and we're chilling around 80 or so without any upscaling.
Could get stable 120 but man do I hate that upscaling

[Sadist_cain]

Postat inițial de Baldwick:

Postat inițial de Jack.:

Recommended settings are mostly set on 30 fps. Is this a bit scummy? Yeah but they all do it, and people should know to take those given settings with a grain of salt nowadays.
Worst optimisation in history? Hell no, did you try Starfield or any other triple A game lately?
Could it be better? Absolutely. This game is very CPU intensive.

Before I updated my CPU and RAM I had horrible drops aswell.
Now running with a 3060 Ti, i7 14700K, 32gb of RAM, installed on an SSD and running at 1080p with around 120 - 140 fps on High settings.

Are you running 1080, 1440 or even higher?
SSD or HDD?
More info on ur settings? GPU usage versus CPU usage ingame?

Give us some more info so we can actually try to help instead of just yelling the optimisation sucks.

Well what kind of info do you need,
My CPU usage caps at 50-60% while playing and my GPU usage is rather stable at around 70%, I dont have any background programs open excluding the Discord app and Steam itself. I have an SSD.

Something definitely wrong there you're operating at damn near half the performance your machine is capable of.

[Baldwick]

Postat inițial de Sadist_cain:

Postat inițial de Baldwick:

I'm using 1920x1080

Plug these settings in:

[Optimized Settings] :
-Object Detail Quality : High
-Render Distance : Ultra
-Shadow Quality : Medium or High
-Particle Quality : Low or Medium
-Reflection Quality : Low or Medium
-Space Quality : Low
-Ambient Occlusion : On
-Screen Space Global Illumination : Off
-Vegetation and Rubble Density : High
-Terrain Quality : Medium or High
-Volumetric Fog Quality: Low
-Volumetric Cloud Quality : Lowest
-Lighting Quality: Medium or High
-Anti Aliasing : On (personal preference)

Taken from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtM4ffG_zko

I could play at 1440 with a gtx1080 averaging 70fps with these settings and some upscaling, the Mrs has a very similar build to yours (9700kf, 3060, 16gb ram, 1080p) and she's running fine at 60, occasional dips to 40 but nothing earth shattering that wouldn't be totally mitigated by gsync.

Game is EXTREMELY CPU intensive compared to most anything else you've played so make sure everything set up right, XMP is enabled if you have it and that all your cooling is sufficient (and I mean actually sufficient, not the 99% of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who believe adequate cooling is somehow software related)

I'm now on a 3080, everything is maxed out and we're chilling around 80 or so without any upscaling.
Could get stable 120 but man do I hate that upscaling

Will try and report back

[lghdl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtM4ffG_zko
This really helped my performance, recommend to give it a watch, went from lagging on intense missions (THE CREEK) to smooth performance on helldive.

[Probitas]

I responded to an SOS on a medium mission, got in and summoned weaponry, the Shield Backpack ended up being a non-functional literal (and I do mean literally) question mark on my back. About 5 minutes later on the game just CTDs. No screen, it just completely crashed. (no screen normally means a lack of an error handling problem with code). I did a file check and got back into the game about an hr later with no issues.

But imagine my surprise when I get up and there's been an update. Funny how that happened.

[Helldivers™ 2]

Dont listen to any of those guys, they are benchmarking outside of fights and using upscaling (basically 720p), which is garbage and kills my eyes. They are just defending their new game.

You can do only 1 thing, turn everything to low except some settings that affect minimally, and wait for a patch to fix their ♥♥♥♥ code. NOTHING else will work, and NOTHING is wrong with your pc i guarantee you.

[scaarab]

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Postat inițial de unknown1234_5:

I'm using a laptop with a gtx 1650, ryzen 5 4,000, 16 GB of ram, and the game is running on a hard drive. I have steady performance at 60-70 fps with extremely rare frame drops (usually only during extraction and other such loading screens). you should check your settings and maybe try to reduce the load on your ram bc with those specs 16 GB of ram is going to bottleneck it pretty hard. it may also be your Motherboard.

- says they play a game with a framerate unachievable by their card (at average combat conditions)
- false information that 16gb ram is not enough for a game with 5 assets (exaggeration, but for real they are very few)
- blames the motherboard of all things

You sir just won the shill award

I have a less powerful graphics card and I can achieve those fps numbers too. I simply limit my fps to 60 in the driver for safety reasons. 16Gb of ram is necessary these days since the games are seveal gigabytes large and having to decompress everything "just in time" will eat up CPU clocks. Having a motherboard with compatiblity issues can cause these issues too. Not knowing how to neuter all the data theft and spying Windows do can cause these issues too. Having a bad motherboard with low memory or GPU bandwith allocation can cause the issues touted by the OP. Having no clue how to set up a PC using the Bios is also a reason for many users issues ranging from low performance to crashing. Having cooling issues can cause a lot of problems. Fact of the matter is, msot people should use a console cause they can't be arsed to learn how to use and maintain a consumer grade PC, let alone one for actual proper gaming.

And yes. The devs are pretty incompetent from the looks of it.