Stun grenade nerf

[Sk[A]rMo'Ry2012]

The issue with stun grenade is that I had too much fun with titans. Now fun levels are on acceptably low levels. Thanks Joel

[Qua2ar]

haha, now you have to learn to actually time your 500kg bombs.

[SexualChocolate]

Originally posted by SkArMo'Ry2004:

The issue with stun grenade is that I had too much fun with titans. Now fun levels are on acceptably low levels. Thanks Joel

I will never stop saying that these devs think annoying and frustrating = fun and challenging.

"Oh look, the plebs are enjoying a particular play style or weapon. Better fuxx that up for them or it won't be fun or challenging. This will totally please the crying sweats in our discord and we shall now hear nothing but praise from them."

[BigBallinChester]

It's 1 second delay fuse means its really short range

[Cas]

Originally posted by SkArMo'Ry2004:

Originally posted by Cas:

im so tired of reading all this kind of defense tbh.
"B-B-B-B-BUT THIS THING IS OP!!!! I DONT WANT TO SEE IT B-B-B-B-BECAUSE IT LiMiTs tHe ChOicEs. I-I-I-I-I-IT'S JUST A CRUTCH BEING USED BY BRAINLESS P-P-P-PLAYERS!"

genius. by nerfing the stun grenades this way. then people would have 0 reasons to run it on bugs. therefore, creating less options.. less choices.....

EMS's are also not doing the stuff... Uh oh! We've got even less choices now!

the stun grenade nerf makes 0 sense. do the devs know how many bile titans you fight in diff 8? or diff 9? sometimes there's 3 running around. a little stun is appreciated.

now there's less skill in play because you just stratagem/anti tank dump the titans. there was skill involved with timing a stun as a way to protect for your teammates

[SexualChocolate]

Originally posted by Cas:

Originally posted by Small ♥♥♥♥ Racist:

stop going around defending these nerfs by screaming crutch this and crutch that
stun grenades sucked before and had a use that was fun but no where near meta
now they have no real use at all

im so tired of reading all this kind of defense tbh.
"B-B-B-B-BUT THIS THING IS OP!!!! I DONT WANT TO SEE IT B-B-B-B-BECAUSE IT LiMiTs tHe ChOicEs. I-I-I-I-I-IT'S JUST A CRUTCH BEING USED BY BRAINLESS P-P-P-PLAYERS!"

genius. by nerfing the stun grenades this way. then people would have 0 reasons to run it on bugs. therefore, creating less options.. less choices.....

People are just self centered. Even though they are free to simply not use a weapon or stratagem them dislike they feel entitled enough to take it away from those who do enjoy it. Then there's the sweats who enjoy suffering. Then there are the really strange ones, I have seen multiple comments along the lines of "I am glad they nerfed weapon X because I have been using it a lot and winning matches with it" like, wtf?

[Grimno]

Originally posted by MeGa:

Originally posted by Grimno:

If using stun grenade
Was your one way to play
That's askillissue~

if thats what you read from the op and comments, you got something much much worse, a brain / reading comprehension issue

Oof
I always love these passive aggressive comments people respond with, cuz you can always tell there's some issues going on at home and they're just projecting now

[Kurotoge]

Originally posted by Irier:

The devs have a vision of how the game should be played and want it played that one way.

They don't understand you can allow the players to play anyway they want as long as the player is having fun. This feels like a culture difference from Sweden devs.


I get it's their baby, but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ eyeroll with trivial nerfs to make a "hardcore game" that no one will ever think it's hardcore.

Do you want a hardcore game look at Japans style of every fight has to be fair. It's the players job how to figure out the mechanics and system to make it fair.

Sadly yeah. Their vision seems to be "Cool Soldiers" but with increasingly unreliable technology. Then when the players find a way to make things work, or if we dare do things outside the box, the nerfs come. People praise the devs for sticking to their vision but I feel those same people will start griping the moment their favourite loadout gets touched.

[Sk[A]rMo'Ry2012]

Originally posted by Qua2ar:

haha, now you have to learn to actually time your 500kg bombs.

Those are trash, stuns unlocked a glorious 110 + EAT combo for me. Now its time to get back to 500s and pray you wont get screwed by desyncs

[BaconX]

"it wasn't that OP"

God, the amount of crack people be smoking.

[Pride Lizard Pride Lizard]

To be fair. Being able to outright stop bile titans from being threats with that maount of ease? No, that was a bit ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stronk

[Huhruhkayn]

Booooooooooooo my least favorite part of the patch notes XD might actually go back to Impact now lol

[Irier]

Originally posted by Hand's Hermit Permit:

Originally posted by Irier:

The devs have a vision of how the game should be played and want it played that one way.

They don't understand you can allow the players to play anyway they want as long as the player is having fun. This feels like a culture difference from Sweden devs.


I get it's their baby, but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ eyeroll with trivial nerfs to make a "hardcore game" that no one will ever think it's hardcore.

Do you want a hardcore game look at Japans style of every fight has to be fair. It's the players job how to figure out the mechanics and system to make it fair.

There's a difference between "play how you want" and "choose with cheat codes on or not" to the point that people kicked you for not using railgun/shield.

It damages the game to have OP options whether you realize it or not. It more limited your options, not increased them. Just the crying alone from the people convinced the nerf was the worst thing possible proves what they were crutching on. They wouldn't complain if the devs missed the mark.

That's strawmanning it. A stun isn't going to make or break a game and with the amount of titans and other enemies to use stuns on with only4-6 grenades doesn't hurt anything.

Having stun grenades just opened up a play style, then nerfing it removed a playstyle because some people where using it to make their loadout combination work to hold the titan still to use a strategem or their heavy weapon. While the majority of players still brought grenades that can close holes.

There is a difference between crutches and having fun with a mechanic.

Crutches is using the distance feature to despawn enemies.

[Sk[A]rMo'Ry2012]

Originally posted by Irier:

Originally posted by Hand's Hermit Permit:

There's a difference between "play how you want" and "choose with cheat codes on or not" to the point that people kicked you for not using railgun/shield.

It damages the game to have OP options whether you realize it or not. It more limited your options, not increased them. Just the crying alone from the people convinced the nerf was the worst thing possible proves what they were crutching on. They wouldn't complain if the devs missed the mark.

That's strawmanning it. A stun isn't going to make or break a game and with the amount of titans and other enemies to use stuns on with only4-6 grenades doesn't hurt anything.

Having stun grenades just opened up a play style, then nerfing it removed a playstyle because some people where using it to make their loadout combination work to hold the titan still to use a strategem or their heavy weapon. While the majority of players still brought grenades that can close holes.

There is a difference between crutches and having fun with a mechanic.

Crutches is using the distance feature to despawn enemies.

So we are back to Outlast Trials meta gameplay

[CH3DD4R_G0B-L1N]

Sorry everyone, this one's on me. I had the audacity of using coordinated team play last night to use my stun grenades to hold a titan and some chargers in place while my buddy dropped a 500kg on them. My bad for trying to use the tools the devs gave me in an effective and seemingly intended way.

[Cas]

Originally posted by SexualChocolate:

People are just self centered. Even though they are free to simply not use a weapon or stratagem them dislike they feel entitled enough to take it away from those who do enjoy it. Then there's the sweats who enjoy suffering. Then there are the really strange ones, I have seen multiple comments along the lines of "I am glad they nerfed weapon X because I have been using it a lot and winning matches with it" like, wtf?

"Then there's the sweats who enjoy suffering. " "I am glad they nerfed weapon X because I have been using it a lot and winning matches with it"
I guess they are masochists?

"Even though they are free to simply not use a weapon or stratagem them dislike they feel entitled enough to take it away from those who do enjoy it. "
tbh idk from which game these people came from. i played other horde shooters before but i dont think i have seen people acting like this.

i really don't understand. nerfing the stun duration seems like the correct nerf.