Stun grenade nerf

[Sk[A]rMo'Ry2012]

The issue with stun grenade is that I had too much fun with titans. Now fun levels are on acceptably low levels. Thanks Joel

[MeGa]

same, it wasnt that op. could have decreased stun time

[BigDaddyBulgyWulgy420]

it was the opposite of overpowered or even useful tbh

some dev must've gotten his feefees hurt

[flakor8]

Especially with how many titans can still spawn, having that small buffer was really nice

[iNem]

its essentially useless for bugs now and quite useful for bots, if you see bunch of small bugs together you might aswell use HE to kill them instead of stunning, only use case i see for it is when you are surrounded by hunters, you just throw it under you

[Grimno]

If using stun grenade
Was your one way to play
That's askillissue~

[MeGa]

Originally posted by Grimno:

If using stun grenade
Was your one way to play
That's askillissue~

if thats what you read from the op and comments, you got something much much worse, a brain / reading comprehension issue

[Trig_Zero]

Originally posted by Grimno:

If using stun grenade
Was your one way to play
That's askillissue~

arguable constructive comments
but u do u

Originally posted by BigDaddyBulgyWulgy420:

it was the opposite of overpowered or even useful tbh

some dev must've gotten his feefees hurt

i'd still think it needs a range buff

[Irier]

The devs have a vision of how the game should be played and want it played that one way.

They don't understand you can allow the players to play anyway they want as long as the player is having fun. This feels like a culture difference from Sweden devs.


I get it's their baby, but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ eyeroll with trivial nerfs to make a "hardcore game" that no one will ever think it's hardcore.

Do you want a hardcore game look at Japans style of every fight has to be fair. It's the players job how to figure out the mechanics and system to make it fair.

[Hand's Hermit Permit]

Originally posted by Irier:

The devs have a vision of how the game should be played and want it played that one way.

They don't understand you can allow the players to play anyway they want as long as the player is having fun. This feels like a culture difference from Sweden devs.


I get it's their baby, but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ eyeroll with trivial nerfs to make a "hardcore game" that no one will ever think it's hardcore.

Do you want a hardcore game look at Japans style of every fight has to be fair. It's the players job how to figure out the mechanics and system to make it fair.

There's a difference between "play how you want" and "choose with cheat codes on or not" to the point that people kicked you for not using railgun/shield.

It damages the game to have OP options whether you realize it or not. It more limited your options, not increased them. Just the crying alone from the people convinced the nerf was the worst thing possible proves what they were crutching on. They wouldn't complain if the devs missed the mark.

[Plumber]

My impression was that they wanted to do some kneejerk nerf to Quasar without actually directly changing it out of fear of backlash, so they decided to make stun grenades completely irrelevant against biles instead, as they facilitated its use.

I am disappointed with this change because it stops me from meaningfully interacting with bile titans besides just blasting them, ironically reducing my options instead of protecting them from being crowded out by stronger options like I assume was their intent (a common grievance I have had with the balance philosophy heretofore). Being able to save teammates from titans or dedicating a loadout slot to keeping them in place long enough for an Orbital Precision Strike or similar stratagem was satisfying. Now that’s gone with nothing to fill the gap. I wonder why they didn’t confer this to EMF in return?

For comparison’s sake, the same weight class of enemies, the two tanks from automatons, die instantly from some well-placed radiator grenades. Why can’t stuns work for bile titans? It felt like a nice asymmetry.

[Sk[A]rMo'Ry2012]

Just you wait until bile titans will be oneshottable by 110s just like tanks... Or tanks will straight up ignore 110s, 500s and rails

[Cas]

Originally posted by SkArMo'Ry2004:

The issue with stun grenade is that I had too much fun with titans. Now fun levels are on acceptably low levels. Thanks Joel

the nerf could've been duration and it would still be fun.... but no. hard nerfs....
why are the devs balancing this game like a competitive game. lmao

[88 keys]

Originally posted by Hand's Hermit Permit:

Originally posted by Irier:

The devs have a vision of how the game should be played and want it played that one way.

They don't understand you can allow the players to play anyway they want as long as the player is having fun. This feels like a culture difference from Sweden devs.


I get it's their baby, but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ eyeroll with trivial nerfs to make a "hardcore game" that no one will ever think it's hardcore.

Do you want a hardcore game look at Japans style of every fight has to be fair. It's the players job how to figure out the mechanics and system to make it fair.

There's a difference between "play how you want" and "choose with cheat codes on or not" to the point that people kicked you for not using railgun/shield.

It damages the game to have OP options whether you realize it or not. It more limited your options, not increased them. Just the crying alone from the people convinced the nerf was the worst thing possible proves what they were crutching on. They wouldn't complain if the devs missed the mark.

stop going around defending these nerfs by screaming crutch this and crutch that
stun grenades sucked before and had a use that was fun but no where near meta
now they have no real use at all

[Cas]

Originally posted by Small ♥♥♥♥ Racist:

Originally posted by Hand's Hermit Permit:

There's a difference between "play how you want" and "choose with cheat codes on or not" to the point that people kicked you for not using railgun/shield.

It damages the game to have OP options whether you realize it or not. It more limited your options, not increased them. Just the crying alone from the people convinced the nerf was the worst thing possible proves what they were crutching on. They wouldn't complain if the devs missed the mark.

stop going around defending these nerfs by screaming crutch this and crutch that
stun grenades sucked before and had a use that was fun but no where near meta
now they have no real use at all

im so tired of reading all this kind of defense tbh.
"B-B-B-B-BUT THIS THING IS OP!!!! I DONT WANT TO SEE IT B-B-B-B-BECAUSE IT LiMiTs tHe ChOicEs. I-I-I-I-I-IT'S JUST A CRUTCH BEING USED BY BRAINLESS P-P-P-PLAYERS!"

genius. by nerfing the stun grenades this way. then people would have 0 reasons to run it on bugs. therefore, creating less options.. less choices.....

[Sk[A]rMo'Ry2012]

Originally posted by Cas:

Originally posted by Small ♥♥♥♥ Racist:

stop going around defending these nerfs by screaming crutch this and crutch that
stun grenades sucked before and had a use that was fun but no where near meta
now they have no real use at all

im so tired of reading all this kind of defense tbh.
"B-B-B-B-BUT THIS THING IS OP!!!! I DONT WANT TO SEE IT B-B-B-B-BECAUSE IT LiMiTs tHe ChOicEs. I-I-I-I-I-IT'S JUST A CRUTCH BEING USED BY BRAINLESS P-P-P-PLAYERS!"

genius. by nerfing the stun grenades this way. then people would have 0 reasons to run it on bugs. therefore, creating less options.. less choices.....

EMS's are also not doing the stuff... Uh oh! We've got even less choices now!