People complaining about anti cheat?

[GoodGorilla]

I heard that 1 in 16 players are complaining about the anti cheat software. Cheating players have been the downfall of all online games and from my experience 1 in 10 players are hacking. More than that are using macros. Well done arrowhead. Keep up the good work. All of the players wanting to hack your ♥♥♥♥ are complaining.

[Sparkles]

What are these claims based on?

I've seen vocal minorities ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about literally everything, but that doesn't automatically equate to the game/AC being bad.

[Tsuru55]

Uh. You KNOW that chinese players still found ways to BYPASS the anti cheat RIGHT?

[New To This]

Kernal level anti-cheat is the problem.
Not that they are attempting to prevent hackers.

[Tsuru55]

In fact.

Most of the complains about the anticheat
is the

CHOICE OF THE ANTI CHEAT

Forgot the name but the one used by HD2
is quite................................not a very good choice
(i will let yourself search the details as you wont believe my words)

[Sparkles]

Originally posted by Tsuru55:

In fact.

Most of the complains about the anticheat
is the

CHOICE OF THE ANTI CHEAT

Forgot the name but the one used by HD2
is quite................................not a very good choice
(i will let yourself search the details as you wont believe my words)

Ah, yes, the classic "it's bad, but I'm not going to tell you why, do your own research."

Always a trustworthy approach.

[New To This]

Originally posted by ↓↑←↓↑→↓↑:

Originally posted by Tsuru55:

In fact.

Most of the complains about the anticheat
is the

CHOICE OF THE ANTI CHEAT

Forgot the name but the one used by HD2
is quite................................not a very good choice
(i will let yourself search the details as you wont believe my words)

Ah, yes, the classic "it's bad, but I'm not going to tell you why, do your own research."

Always a trustworthy approach.

The approach the devs are taking is.
"We need access to keylog your every stroke, to monitor your every program, and to have complete total access to EVERYTHING, but it's okay because trust me bro!"

wait that's YOUR argument, holy heck you're making the devs argument!
AH HA! found the problem,.

[Armos]

nProtect GameGuard. I remember this since way back in the early days of Gunbound.

Unlike what fearmongerers may tell you about any anti-cheat ever, it's not out to get you nor harm your computer. There's privacy policies for a reason, and if they breach them, they can be sued (if you have suitable proof).

[Kaine]

You know if this was some invisible background process I'd understand the paranoia. Perhaps anyone doing their internet banking while mid HellDive might fall foul of Mr Pilestedt emptying their bank account...Got to be careful......

[Dav]

It's extremely invasive, very CPU intensive, and doesn't even stop cheats

[New To This]

Originally posted by Armos:

nProtect GameGuard. I remember this since way back in the early days of Gunbound.

Unlike what fearmongerers may tell you about any anti-cheat ever, it's not out to get you nor harm your computer. There's privacy policies for a reason, and if they breach them, they can be sued (if you have suitable proof).

Not any anti-cheat.
KERNEL LEVEL Anti-cheats.
FFS stop misrepresenting a legitimate point by not understanding it.
Go watch a youtube video on why it's an invasive program.
Since nothing I say matters, and you won't listen to a random person without a video proving it anyways.

[maloce]

I really do not know much about it but watched a video and the guy said it's intrusive.

I just used bing AI:
"You
I said gamegard on accident, I meant nprotect.
Copilot
My apologies for the oversight! Let’s dive into NProtect, an anti-cheat system, and explore its nuances.

NProtect:
NProtect GameGuard (often referred to as just GameGuard) is an anti-cheat software used in various online games.
Like other anti-cheat systems, it aims to prevent cheating, hacking, and unauthorized modifications.
GameGuard operates at a kernel-level, which grants it privileged access to the operating system. This allows it to monitor and control processes more effectively.
However, being a kernel-level component also makes it a prime target for both government entities and hackers.
Government Involvement:
Governments have the capability to exploit vulnerabilities in software, including anti-cheat systems like NProtect.
If a government agency has a vested interest (such as national security or law enforcement), they might attempt to compromise or manipulate NProtect.
Such actions would likely occur covertly and without public knowledge.
Hacking and Exploits:
Hackers continuously search for weaknesses in software, including anti-cheat systems.
While NProtect aims to prevent cheating, it is not immune to vulnerabilities.
If a hacker discovers a flaw (such as a buffer overflow or privilege escalation), they could potentially compromise NProtect.
Once compromised, they might bypass its checks or even disable it altogether.
Privacy and Performance:
Privacy Concerns: NProtect does not collect personally identifiable information (PII) .
Performance Impact: GameGuard is active only while the game is running, and extensive testing has not shown significant performance degradation ."

I really want this game but dang. I wonder if so many PC gamers are going to get the shaft.

[Sa1zo]

Originally posted by maloce:

I really do not know much about it but watched a video and the guy said it's intrusive.

I just used bing AI:
"You
I said gamegard on accident, I meant nprotect.
Copilot
My apologies for the oversight! Let’s dive into NProtect, an anti-cheat system, and explore its nuances.

NProtect:
NProtect GameGuard (often referred to as just GameGuard) is an anti-cheat software used in various online games.
Like other anti-cheat systems, it aims to prevent cheating, hacking, and unauthorized modifications.
GameGuard operates at a kernel-level, which grants it privileged access to the operating system. This allows it to monitor and control processes more effectively.
However, being a kernel-level component also makes it a prime target for both government entities and hackers.
Government Involvement:
Governments have the capability to exploit vulnerabilities in software, including anti-cheat systems like NProtect.
If a government agency has a vested interest (such as national security or law enforcement), they might attempt to compromise or manipulate NProtect.
Such actions would likely occur covertly and without public knowledge.
Hacking and Exploits:
Hackers continuously search for weaknesses in software, including anti-cheat systems.
While NProtect aims to prevent cheating, it is not immune to vulnerabilities.
If a hacker discovers a flaw (such as a buffer overflow or privilege escalation), they could potentially compromise NProtect.
Once compromised, they might bypass its checks or even disable it altogether.
Privacy and Performance:
Privacy Concerns: NProtect does not collect personally identifiable information (PII) .
Performance Impact: GameGuard is active only while the game is running, and extensive testing has not shown significant performance degradation ."

I really want this game but dang. I wonder if so many PC gamers are going to get the shaft.

Yeah the game is amazing, the anticheat is.. well no, not really. Never liked any kind of software that runs outside of my control, even though its understandable considering some cheats do run on kernel level. If i have the choice then i would probably run this game on a windows emulator instead of my actual PC.

[maloce]

I might still get it. x_x I've been wanting this game for so long.
Does anyone know how it runs on a 3060 ti, 16 gb of ram, and a 3600 at 1400p? I do not mind lowering graphical stuff at all.

[Bosshog]

Originally posted by ↓↑←↓↑→↓↑:

Originally posted by Tsuru55:

In fact.

Most of the complains about the anticheat
is the

CHOICE OF THE ANTI CHEAT

Forgot the name but the one used by HD2
is quite................................not a very good choice
(i will let yourself search the details as you wont believe my words)

Ah, yes, the classic "it's bad, but I'm not going to tell you why, do your own research."

Always a trustworthy approach.

it's "bad" because it works.

[BigJ]

Kernel level anti cheat for a coop game.

Doesn't stop hackers, cracked within a week.