What is the point of HMG?

[Daddy Warbucks]

The standard machine gun you get has more ammo and seems to be able to kill same things accept you do not need to fight it with every shot. Is there armor piercing effect I am missing?

[The_Dipl0mat]

I believe it does more damage and shreds easier. I believe it works best against bugs rather than bots due to its rapid fire nature

[gachi is manly]

I'm not sure, but unless they reduce the recoil or increase ammo, I'm not bothering with it. Even with the recoil reduction when crouching armor, it still kicks like crazy. I'd rather just use a gun where I'm not constantly fighting it + whatever I'm shooting at.

[Jhea]

the HMG is pretty good.
it works best vs bots, since it can kill everything the bots throw at you, even tanks. (put some shots in it from behind, in the vent as with the autocannon) and you're good.
put it in 1200 RPM mode, just squeeze the trigger slightly, and have 4 to 10 shots fly in the general direction, killing whatever comes at you.
or put it in 450 RPM mode, and use it as a .50 cal

first one is pretty much german MG 42 on normandy 1944, which is pretty sick.
second one is just the... well .50cal.

just remember to crouch or lay down, and you have all the control you want over your salvo.

i recently took out a whole bot AA gun emplacement at 200 m with that thing, just shooting the backside of the turrets... and the bots never had a chance to know where i was.

Of course you can just use the quasar cannon too.
play how ever you feel like, and try things.

[Daddy Warbucks]

Originally posted by Jhea:

the HMG is pretty good.
it works best vs bots, since it can kill everything the bots throw at you, even tanks. (put some shots in it from behind, in the vent as with the autocannon) and you're good.
put it in 1200 RPM mode, just squeeze the trigger slightly, and have 4 to 10 shots fly in the general direction, killing whatever comes at you.
or put it in 450 RPM mode, and use it as a .50 cal

first one is pretty much german MG 42 on normandy 1944, which is pretty sick.
second one is just the... well .50cal.

just remember to crouch or lay down, and you have all the control you want over your salvo.

i recently took out a whole bot AA gun emplacement at 200 m with that thing, just shooting the backside of the turrets... and the bots never had a chance to know where i was.

Of course you can just use the quasar cannon too.
play how ever you feel like, and try things.

So can the regular Machine Gun. Sure it shoots slower but it is way more accurate and the ammo lest way longer. It could in short range and medium since its not bouncing all over the place like HMG

[EvolutionKills]

It does have higher armor penetration. As in, you can mag dump into the armored front of a automaton Hulk and do some damage rather than have your shots defect. It will also do more damage to medium armored enemies, like automaton Devastators (assuming you are hitting their armored bodies rather than their heads).

But is that capability worth the massive reduction in ammo, loss of 3rd person aim point, the need to be prone to hit anything at mid-range, or fighting the blinding muzzle flash that obscures the sight picture when you ADS? For me, personally, the answer is a resounding NO.

[StIwY]

Originally posted by Jhea:

the HMG is pretty good.

I stopped reading here, this statement is a lie.

[Saxxon]

It needs a lot of tweaking. It is crap now.

[LegendaryThunder]

Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks:

The standard machine gun you get has more ammo and seems to be able to kill same things accept you do not need to fight it with every shot. Is there armor piercing effect I am missing?

Armor penetration, it needs more ammo though.

[Chaosolous]

It's meant to make limp noodles look cool.

[PebblePot]

I've been using it as a medium armour killer. Devastators, Berserkers that kind of thing. It shreds them real quick, but it does take some getting used to. I set it to 1200RPM and fire short bursts. The recoil is quite severe so I usually wear armour with the Fortified perk and try to crouch/prone before I fire.

You can even use it to kill tanks and hulks. I was able to climb onto a tank and fire a long burst into the vent.

When I first got it I was very disappointed because I was trying to use it like the other MGs where you can do sustained fire. But the recoil is way too high for that. I find it works much better as a burst weapon unless you are at super close range.

[Daddy Warbucks]

Originally posted by PebblePot:

I've been using it as a medium armour killer. Devastators, Berserkers that kind of thing. It shreds them real quick, but it does take some getting used to. I set it to 1200RPM and fire short bursts. The recoil is quite severe so I usually wear armour with the Fortified perk and try to crouch/prone before I fire.

You can even use it to kill tanks and hulks. I was able to climb onto a tank and fire a long burst into the vent.

When I first got it I was very disappointed because I was trying to use it like the other MGs where you can do sustained fire. But the recoil is way too high for that. I find it works much better as a burst weapon unless you are at super close range.

Anyone gun will let you kill a hulk or tank if you hit them in the vent. Only difference is if its explosive or not since that area has damage reduction unless you use explosive weapon.

[Tsuru55]

Originally posted by StIwY:

Originally posted by Jhea:

the HMG is pretty good.

I stopped reading here, this statement is a lie.

+1

[Death a Barbar]

nothing, it's a slightly more powerful gpmg with half the ammo and twice the recoil, you can only use it in full auto while prone and lowest rpm, and at that point it's just a less accurate AMR with more ammo

[Amerikanovich]

It seems very inconsistent, sometimes I can shoot straight through strider frontplates with it, othertimes I'll unload a whole mag into a group of devastators coming at me and none of them even lose an arm.
Against bots, the plasma scorcher has much better TTK against medium targets, the HMG only lets you take out hulks & tanks better (but then, that's where the quasar cannon comes in as the better option).

[Death a Barbar]

Originally posted by EvolutionKills:

It does have higher armor penetration. As in, you can mag dump into the armored front of a automaton Hulk and do some damage rather than have your shots defect.

That's most likely because you hit the head where any medium armor pen weapons will deal damage.