Use heavy armor against bots

[Raab]

Save the shield strat for another time, and add a different stratagem for load-outs. Took a few rockets tonight without dying. Had the Heavy armor that has increased armor passive on.

[DarkFenix]

it's nice until you have a hulk and a pack of berserkers chasing you. I'd also argue that the -50% explosion damage probably gets you more value than the extra armour rating.

[𝒞𝒶𝓈𝓊𝒶𝓁 Sinner]

You can probably do the same with medium armor that has the 50% lethal damage trait, but also get more stamina out of it. I like the shield in concept, but in execution it can get you killed because the bots (especially rockets) will target the shield, and the splash damage will hit you even if you are behind cover.

The issue with heavy armor is the stamina, and at higher tiers of bots, you will need the stamina unless you want to continue to battle wave after wave of hulks and tanks being bot dropped.

[Serious Squirrel]

Originally posted by 𝒞𝒶𝓈𝓊𝒶𝓁 Sinner:

You can probably do the same with medium armor that has the 50% lethal damage trait, but also get more stamina out of it. I like the shield in concept, but in execution it can get you killed because the bots (especially rockets) will target the shield, and the splash damage will hit you even if you are behind cover.

The issue with heavy armor is the stamina, and at higher tiers of bots, you will need the stamina unless you want to continue to battle wave after wave of hulks and tanks being bot dropped.

This is the way

[onewhofound]

100% agree, although you can get away with using the blast-resistant medium armor if you are worried about being able to outrun Meat Saws.

Also, the Stamina booster can help as well.

[:P]

i fell in love with fortified commando playing bug missions on 8 but with bots extra padding doesnt do as much as 50%- explosive... but i mean i will never understand armor in this game because while i usually have the most kills (200+) at the end of a mission its always the light armor jump pack user that is always 1 to 0 deaths with ~80 kills which just makes me like really bro ur telling me he didn't come across any shield or rocket devastator groups

[Cryptic]

Light armor always and forever. 300 hours in. 550 missions. Used light for more than 80% of them. It's best. Hands down. Movement is more important than heavier armor

[Kushko]

Originally posted by Cryptic:

Light armor always and forever. 300 hours in. 550 missions. Used light for more than 80% of them. It's best. Hands down. Movement is more important than heavier armor

Agreed. Dodging and disengaging is far superior to facetanking.

[Tsuru55]

I had heavy armor with -50% explo
but still instant died by explosion

But for the defense of automaton, i am not sure if he headshotted me, or it was a tank explosive-shot

.......I gonna report myself to the closest democratic officer. I need retraining.

[ImHelping]

Honestly more than the physical protection, the fact shield stops FLINCHING is the biggest benefit of a shield.

While I shill for the fortified perk? Heavy armor still does ♥♥♥♥ all in preventing a stiff breeze from denying your shot on a stationary target because a robot 9mm bullet grazed your shoulder.

Not that I can use a shield 80% of the time anyways with my love of autocannons.

But due to flinch ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, that shield is to protect OTHER PEOPLE, not just myself, to ensure I drill a hole through the face of a rocket robot everybody cries about, instead of "oops sorry, my AMR shot flew off at a 45 degree angle and they got to blow you up instead"

[Dakota]

Originally posted by :P:

i fell in love with fortified commando playing bug missions on 8 but with bots extra padding doesnt do as much as 50%- explosive... but i mean i will never understand armor in this game because while i usually have the most kills (200+) at the end of a mission its always the light armor jump pack user that is always 1 to 0 deaths with ~80 kills which just makes me like really bro ur telling me he didn't come across any shield or rocket devastator groups

Shield and rocket devastator groups aren't a problem to light armor with jump pack because you can just get away with them comically easy.

[Paulie]

you know what works better than armor? not being spotted. Concealment > Cover.

[Pride Lizard Pride Lizard]

I've tried using heavy armour with explosive resistance and like... I was still being one shot. I ended up just switching ot medium armour and focusing on that +2 grenades and 30% less recoil when crouched/prone so I can autocannon harder. :v