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Cadwell Mar 29, 2024 @ 8:01am
FAF-14 Spear is underrated
I see a lot of hate towards this weapon, and i think it's undeserved!

People complain about this missile launcher being slow to target and having a specific distance to be at to use it.

But that's the thing...it's meant to be a bloody long distance missile!

It's supposed to be used by that one Helldiver buddy that stays hidden and supports the main squad with it!

I took it with me on solo missions, and was able to take out Automaton Fabricators,Hulks, Tanks, Cannon Turrets! Made clearing the map of outposts a breeze

The only fair criticism is that it has limited missiles and can be rather difficult to lock-on, but aside for that, i feel like the hate is undeserved!
Originally posted by Baelog:
Spear can only lock up things that appear as large blips on your radar. That means it will lock Scout Walkers but not any Devastator. Will lock bot fabricators but not illegal broadcasts or illegal research.

Spear has a very high chance of instantly killing a Hulk if shot from direct front or direct back, since the missile seems to be programmed to land in their weak spots

Spear is more reliable at killing Tanks than you think due to it being able to 1-shot a tank through it's turret roof. Proper distance and/or elevation is required to avoid hitting it's hull.

Spear can reliably destroy cannon towers (1-shot to the gun turret itself, not the inert tower) and very unreliably kill stratagem jammers due to the weapon having to see the base of the jammer which is often surrounded by walls and other obstructions.

Weather, smoke/spores, terrain, and inert emplacements such as bunkers, fences, etc can all prevent a lock with the Spear.

Spears can lock up to 300m.

A fluctuating lock that achieves a full lock, even for a split-second, is better than no lock at all, and having the the center dot (3rd person) or the center of the screen over the target (1st person) will grant more reliable locks.
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Aldain Mar 29, 2024 @ 8:03am 
Honestly the janky lock on is the only thing wrong with it imo.
Redeyeflight Mar 29, 2024 @ 8:05am 
Originally posted by Aldain:
Honestly the janky lock on is the only thing wrong with it imo.

Oddly enough the lock on felt janky to me at first too, then I stopped trying to use it when near the target. Get your distance, find high ground, and crouch.
Removing the spears ability to lock onto anything smaller than a hive guard would be an actual buff.
Lex85 Mar 29, 2024 @ 8:09am 
...I'm dreaming of a Spear with:
- Reliable 1-hit-delete against any heavy target
- Dual mode function with standard auto lock and manual guidance (SACLOS, like the real TOW)
- Locks get spoofed by thick fog, ion storms, commissary flares
- Increased minmum range to hit
I want to like the spear but there's too many problems with it. It's an Anti-Tank weapon that can't reliably one shot annihilator tanks or hulks, and the lock on is barely functional. Works best as a building destroyer, but that damned lock on...
Eudicots Mar 29, 2024 @ 8:21am 
If it could kill a titan in one shot without needing to rely on a headshot I would use it more. The targeting is just a little off to rely on it.
Cadwell Mar 29, 2024 @ 8:42am 
Originally posted by Lex85 ITA:
...I'm dreaming of a Spear with:
- Reliable 1-hit-delete against any heavy target
- Dual mode function with standard auto lock and manual guidance (SACLOS, like the real TOW)
- Locks get spoofed by thick fog, ion storms, commissary flares
- Increased minmum range to hit


I see, so essentially, it should be just all-around more reliable and be more flexible with the dual lock-on and range.
The_Dipl0mat Mar 29, 2024 @ 8:44am 
Originally posted by Redeyeflight:
Originally posted by Aldain:
Honestly the janky lock on is the only thing wrong with it imo.

Oddly enough the lock on felt janky to me at first too, then I stopped trying to use it when near the target. Get your distance, find high ground, and crouch.

For me, its still janky either way. I've stared dead on not moving at a fabricator about 150m away and it'd keep almost locking on before stopping. When it works, it works beautifully and I've managed a few stealth missions. When it doesn't, it's annoying
Catteus Of Mars Mar 29, 2024 @ 8:46am 
its map dependent... lot of trees with lot of leafs and you cant lock into anything... on desert maps... ITS GREAT probably best AT
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Baelog Mar 29, 2024 @ 9:01am 
Spear can only lock up things that appear as large blips on your radar. That means it will lock Scout Walkers but not any Devastator. Will lock bot fabricators but not illegal broadcasts or illegal research.

Spear has a very high chance of instantly killing a Hulk if shot from direct front or direct back, since the missile seems to be programmed to land in their weak spots

Spear is more reliable at killing Tanks than you think due to it being able to 1-shot a tank through it's turret roof. Proper distance and/or elevation is required to avoid hitting it's hull.

Spear can reliably destroy cannon towers (1-shot to the gun turret itself, not the inert tower) and very unreliably kill stratagem jammers due to the weapon having to see the base of the jammer which is often surrounded by walls and other obstructions.

Weather, smoke/spores, terrain, and inert emplacements such as bunkers, fences, etc can all prevent a lock with the Spear.

Spears can lock up to 300m.

A fluctuating lock that achieves a full lock, even for a split-second, is better than no lock at all, and having the the center dot (3rd person) or the center of the screen over the target (1st person) will grant more reliable locks.
MagikarpMagi Mar 29, 2024 @ 9:04am 
I don't like to use it. But one of my friends does, and I love it when he does- that thing is great. Some people have a feel for aiming with it; I haven't put in the time.
Kuma Mar 29, 2024 @ 9:14am 
The lock on on that thing is completely bugged, on bugs if you want to lock efficiently use the first person lock on on bots it's better third but sometimes even if you are perfect distance perfect view it won't simply lock on. It was my main stratagem, i love it but the lock is simply bugged when it bugs out you just have to drop it and use something else.
donut32 Mar 29, 2024 @ 9:25am 
no one likes it because the lock on is terrible. that last time i used it a titan was chasing around someone else and it was just maintaining a yellow lock for like 10 seconds, before someone else just ended up killing it

garbage
if it did top down attack maybe but it being just another direct fire weapon i see no point over better options

4 ammo too ofc
DaRep Mar 29, 2024 @ 9:37am 
I play with a guy that reliably knocks out detector towers with the Spear at stupid ranges. Not even sure how that works, if it has been the automaton factories exploding near the tower thing or what, but I've seen him do it 3-5 times in the past day.

Sure that's a super specific use, but a pretty good one.
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Date Posted: Mar 29, 2024 @ 8:01am
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