What does the portable HMG do that the MG-43 doesn't?

[TwoTonTuna]

Has anyone found a niche use for the HMG that makes it superior to the MG-43?

As far as I know, the HMG can only pierce medium armor the same way that the MG-43 does. The damage isn't really that different because a single body shot isn't enough to kill a skinny bot, and the sights of the HMG are off by a large margin.

The only benefit I can see at the moment is the 1,100 fire rate, which means you blow your load in a handful of seconds due to the paltry 75-round magazine.

[Majorita]

One thing I read elsewhere is it can splat walkers through their stupid AT-ST front plate.

So... there's that. It can kill one enemy type which, while annoying, dies to almost any of the other options out there anyway.

[Zeddy]

The piercing is one armour level higher, so things that MG-43 white hits, HMG will red-hit. That gives it significantly faster time to kills against things like hive guards, bile spewers and devestators.

In theory it can also go through striders plates but I don't find the ammo expenditure worth it for that. Instead, it might be better to just go more effectively for the legs. The amount of armour piercing is also enough for hulk masks, but I'm not sure how practical that is.

Not arguing wether the weapon is good or bad, but that is some of the things level 3 armour piercing can do, same as AM Rifle, Autocannon, and Laser Cannon.

[DarkFenix]

From what I've seen of the only video I've seen stupid enough to praise the HMG, it's an effective melee weapon. No really, its only strength is setting to 1200rpm, being in knife-fight range with a target, and blowing it away at a range where it's impossible to miss. I'd have laughed if I wasn't facepalming so hard.

[General Brash]

1200 RPM, squeeze the trigger lightly and watch 3 to 10 shots rip through walkers, devastators, armored bugs, and watch everything else also go down.

Lay down or crouch (i prefer laying down) to have more control

That weapon is great.
a bit short on ammo tho, but it's better than the normal machine gun.

[Majorita]

Originally posted by DarkFenix:

From what I've seen of the only video I've seen stupid enough to praise the HMG, it's an effective melee weapon. No really, its only strength is setting to 1200rpm, being in knife-fight range with a target, and blowing it away at a range where it's impossible to miss. I'd have laughed if I wasn't facepalming so hard.

Right?

I mean... even if it works in that capacity... what the , we're talking about an HMG here, WHY is it like that?

I like many other people probably just want the kind of MG you can like use on a hill as a you know SUPPORT WEAPON mowing down literally any robot in your sightlines so you can SUPPORT your allies as they move up a hill or something.

But, alas.

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

Originally posted by Zeddy:

The piercing is one armour level higher, so things that MG-43 white hits, HMG will red-hit. That gives it significantly faster time to kills against things like hive guards, bile spewers and devestators.

In theory it can also go through striders plates but I don't find the ammo expenditure worth it for that. Instead, it might be better to just go more effectively for the legs. The amount of armour piercing is also enough for hulk masks, but I'm not sure how practical that is.

Not arguing wether the weapon is good or bad, but that is some of the things level 3 armour piercing can do, same as AM Rifle, Autocannon, and Laser Cannon.

in combo with the stun grenade you can kill hulks easy but then you are completly ♥♥♥♥♥♥ when it comes to fabricators and if your stratagems get blocked because of a jammer and it one without console then you are pretty useless.

[Mini]

I like it quite a bit! I think it’s the first support weapon that actually needs its fire rate turned down to be most effective at range, so I get why some people think it sucks.

I find it to be a great answer to the bots at the moment. It shreds through everything but Hulks and Shield Devastators with ease

[WhiteDragon_D]

The missing crosshair in 3rd person, is it a bug or a feature?

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

Originally posted by WhiteDragon_D:

The missing crosshair in 3rd person, is it a bug or a feature?

feature they dont want you to use it in 3rd-person

[WhiteDragon_D]

Originally posted by Troja:

Originally posted by WhiteDragon_D:

The missing crosshair in 3rd person, is it a bug or a feature?

feature they dont want you to use it in 3rd-person

[Eudicots]

The HMG can take out bigger enemies on the robot side. Takes like 6 shots to kill a Hulk from the face. For bots, the HMG would be a better pick, but for bugs, you are better off with an MG-43.

[Granola incident]

can kill hulk, but still sucks

[Key]

It weighs more, duh.

That's why it's a heavy machinegun, you silly person.

[Zeddy]

Originally posted by Troja:

Originally posted by Zeddy:

The piercing is one armour level higher, so things that MG-43 white hits, HMG will red-hit. That gives it significantly faster time to kills against things like hive guards, bile spewers and devestators.

In theory it can also go through striders plates but I don't find the ammo expenditure worth it for that. Instead, it might be better to just go more effectively for the legs. The amount of armour piercing is also enough for hulk masks, but I'm not sure how practical that is.

Not arguing wether the weapon is good or bad, but that is some of the things level 3 armour piercing can do, same as AM Rifle, Autocannon, and Laser Cannon.

in combo with the stun grenade you can kill hulks easy but then you are completly ♥♥♥♥♥♥ when it comes to fabricators and if your stratagems get blocked because of a jammer and it one without console then you are pretty useless.

I feel silly not thinking of stun grenades. Will bring it next HMG run I do.

[TheLordlierEel]

I'm really hopping that eventually we get stratagem upgrades like in the first game and one of the upgrades for the hmg would be an ammo backpack that holds like 500 rounds. Even 300 would be nice.