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Dr.Vaфе!ь Mar 27, 2024 @ 11:28pm
The numbers don't add up...
https://helldivers.io/
So, you can see actual contribution of players to the planet. I've noticed that Vandalion IV that was openned for liberation almost a day ago has very wierd score(and every other planet) You can click on the planets and see score of some players contributing to liberation, but that score is insane. How come some guy managed to get almost 6k of score given that you can earn only score of 3 after you've done your stack of missions. By dividing his score by 3 (like any score I was able to achive in 5-9 difficulties) states that he managed to do almost 2k stacks of missions in a 24 hours. Maybe I'm missing something...any thoughts?
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asura Mar 27, 2024 @ 11:34pm 
This site is fan-made and not affiliated with Arrowhead Game Studios in any way.
Dr.Vaфе!ь Mar 27, 2024 @ 11:38pm 
Originally posted by asura:
This site is fan-made and not affiliated with Arrowhead Game Studios in any way.
Fans can't datamine?
asura Mar 27, 2024 @ 11:39pm 
The story goes that the auther somehow reverse engineered the requests from the game client.
But where the leadboards come from...? Who knows. If it does come down from the API then blame it all on arrow head math - like when your Automatons + Bugs don't equal enemy kills or when you have to kill 425 bugs solo and the end game screen says you killed 200.
Last edited by asura; Mar 27, 2024 @ 11:39pm
Dr.Vaфе!ь Mar 27, 2024 @ 11:43pm 
Originally posted by asura:
The story goes that the auther somehow reverse engineered the requests from the game client.
But where the leadboards come from...? Who knows. If it does come down from the API then blame it all on arrow head math - like when your Automatons + Bugs don't equal enemy kills or when you have to kill 425 bugs solo and the end game screen says you killed 200.
I can recall that killcount was wrong if you were using ARC weapons before they "fixed" it. I still think that something fishy, 999999 score on stratagem hero, screenshots with 300+ at mission stack complition...
Aradia Megido Mar 27, 2024 @ 11:45pm 
yea that is quite 0dd

m0st pe0ple at the t0p 0f the leaderb0ard are g0ing t0 be trivial grinding which if y0u d0 them as fast as p0ssible y0u are l00king at 2~3 minutes f0r 0ne sc0re

even if this pers0n was perfecting every single missi0n they w0uld 0nly have ab0ut 700 sc0re

but maybe the helldivers.i0 site remembers 0ld sc0re because this isnt the first time vandal0n iv was available t0 us
Normarry Mar 27, 2024 @ 11:47pm 
Originally posted by asura:
The story goes that the auther somehow reverse engineered the requests from the game client.
But where the leadboards come from...? Who knows. If it does come down from the API then blame it all on arrow head math - like when your Automatons + Bugs don't equal enemy kills or when you have to kill 425 bugs solo and the end game screen says you killed 200.
Not really to disregard whats being said but its hard to even say what the leader board is exactly scoring. Cause literally all finishing 3 missions in a op does is add liberation progress and I dont see how they would be using that to calculate a "leaderboard"

As for the 425 somehow translating to 200 its to avoid things like mass bilespewers from just making the game take longer. Cause in reality that bilespewer could of be like 5 kills or something. So medium to large enemies are counted differently as to be fairly equated to time. Unless ofc you would rather they replace 5 little bugs with chargers.
Last edited by Normarry; Mar 27, 2024 @ 11:48pm
Eagle_of_Fire Mar 27, 2024 @ 11:48pm 
People cheating scores in an internet game? Highscores/ladders filled with people with impossible scores?

Shocking.
MagikarpMagi Mar 27, 2024 @ 11:50pm 
Originally posted by Dr.Vaфе!ь:
999999 score on stratagem hero

I thought that was just intentionally silly by the devs; inside joke names, etc. But it's crappy not to have a real scoreboard
Vali Riversong Mar 27, 2024 @ 11:58pm 
Originally posted by CritMasterFlex:
Originally posted by Dr.Vaфе!ь:
999999 score on stratagem hero

I thought that was just intentionally silly by the devs; inside joke names, etc. But it's crappy not to have a real scoreboard
I wish it was only users who have either visited your ship, or are on your friends list.
MagikarpMagi Mar 28, 2024 @ 12:01am 
Originally posted by Vali Riversong:
Originally posted by CritMasterFlex:

I thought that was just intentionally silly by the devs; inside joke names, etc. But it's crappy not to have a real scoreboard
I wish it was only users who have either visited your ship, or are on your friends list.

I dunno, we might start seeing forum posts like "Hosts need to quit intentionally griefing to prevent other players from beating their high score on Stratagem Hero. This guy kicked me because I started getting close to his high score..."
asura Mar 28, 2024 @ 12:34am 
Originally posted by Normarry:
As for the 425 somehow translating to 200 its to avoid things like mass bilespewers from just making the game take longer. Cause in reality that bilespewer could of be like 5 kills or something. So medium to large enemies are counted differently as to be fairly equated to time. Unless ofc you would rather they replace 5 little bugs with chargers.
Go try it as soon as eradication missions are available. I think it's D2 or D3?
It literally says kill 300 bugs or whatever. Solo it. Your kill count will be < 300. There are no bile titans.

Originally posted by Dr.Vaфе!ь:
I can recall that killcount was wrong if you were using ARC weapons before they "fixed" it.
Was it also the kill count?
It was for sure the accuracy. I left matches with 137% accuracy.

Arrow Head Math. 1 + 2 = double backflip not really explosive 37.
Dr.Vaфе!ь Mar 28, 2024 @ 12:43am 
Before the ARC patch that caused ARC crash issue You could TK a teammate with ARC without any scores to "accident deaths" and "friendly fire damage" All ARC weapons contributed 0 score to your accuracy, kill count, etc. Only after that said patch we can finally achive >100% accuracy, etc.
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asura Mar 28, 2024 @ 12:44am 
I am 137% sure I left matches with 137% accuracy (or at least > 100%) with Arc.
Either way it doesn't matter. Welcome to Arrow Head math regardless.
Normarry Mar 28, 2024 @ 12:46am 
Originally posted by asura:
Go try it as soon as eradication missions are available. I think it's D2 or D3?
It literally says kill 300 bugs or whatever. Solo it. Your kill count will be < 300. There are no bile titans.
I've already tested it, I can't remember the exact numbers but when it comes spewers, chargers, and bile titans they all add to the number differently for the mission. They still count as one in stats. Same probably applies to hulks and tanks.
Last edited by Normarry; Mar 28, 2024 @ 12:46am
asura Mar 28, 2024 @ 12:50am 
Originally posted by Normarry:
I've already tested it, I can't remember the exact numbers but when it comes spewers, chargers, and bile titans they all add to the number differently for the mission. They still count as one in stats. Same probably applies to hulks and tanks.
So on D2 or D3 the ... what... hive guards count as 50?
I mean I don't not believe you but you keep naming stuff that doesn't even spawn that early. Either way it's really nonsensical to see 4 people get 50 kills each and have cleared 425 bugs.
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Date Posted: Mar 27, 2024 @ 11:28pm
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