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Zen Mar 27, 2024 @ 8:37am
What is the railgun good at?
So Im unlocking new stuff level 20 and tried it. It says its for armor penetration but its near useless against chargers for example so?..
Thanks
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Redeyeflight Mar 28, 2024 @ 4:17am 
Originally posted by Kris:
One shots most things against bots, including Hulks if you get the visor hit. Stun grenade + rail gun combo often works well.

No.
Autocannon > rail gun in every application the rail gun might be useful against bots.
Railgun = worthless trash.
Last edited by Redeyeflight; Mar 28, 2024 @ 4:18am
Marik Mar 28, 2024 @ 4:20am 
Originally posted by Redeyeflight:
Originally posted by Kris:
One shots most things against bots, including Hulks if you get the visor hit. Stun grenade + rail gun combo often works well.

No.
Autocannon > rail gun in every application the rail gun might be useful against bots.
Railgun = worthless trash.
You are allowed to be delusional, sir.
Redeyeflight Mar 28, 2024 @ 4:23am 
Originally posted by Kris:
Originally posted by Redeyeflight:

No.
Autocannon > rail gun in every application the rail gun might be useful against bots.
Railgun = worthless trash.
You are allowed to be delusional, sir.

Mathematics says you're the one who is delusional.
When you're arguing against mathematics you might consider examining your reasoning to see if you might find some weak sense.

Like, say, pretending the rail gun nerf wasn't that bad.

Stop pretending. Propagandizing it isn't going to save the game.
Last edited by Redeyeflight; Mar 28, 2024 @ 4:23am
m142 Mar 28, 2024 @ 4:24am 
some one might said it along way but its hard to resist.

it's trash weapon nerfed to show you your place , 20 magazines with 1 chargable bullets that can richoshet of heavy armor just because some cc's used it to promote chanels and game.

to sum it up it dosn't have zoom , don't penetrate above medium armor , don't do aoe dmg , have to be loaded and charged every time.

it's trash that should be deleted at this point , there is auto-canon , granade launcher , recoilless , expendable , much better options with less cd and better usage.
Marik Mar 28, 2024 @ 4:25am 
Originally posted by Redeyeflight:
Originally posted by Kris:
You are allowed to be delusional, sir.

Mathematics says you're the one who is delusional.
When you're arguing against mathematics you might consider examining your reasoning to see if you might find some weak sense.

Like, say, pretending the rail gun nerf wasn't that bad.

Stop pretending. Propagandizing it isn't going to save the game.
Show me those mathematics. Go on. Show how the complex tactical situations and loadout balance problems that arises in gameplay can be turned into a mathematical formula proving me wrong. I'm waiting.
Redeyeflight Mar 28, 2024 @ 4:30am 
To all of you defending the rail gun in this thread, you seem to be leaving some very important out of your opinions.

Tell me real quick. What's the rate of fire?
What's the actual time to kill on a hulk, cannon tower, or tank?
How long per shot do you have to expose yourself to enemy fire?

How does that compare to other options?

Rail gun is garbage, and if you're saying otherwise you're just lying to defend the game, and not doing any newbies any favors by trying to convince them to take it.
Redeyeflight Mar 28, 2024 @ 4:31am 
Originally posted by Kris:
Originally posted by Redeyeflight:

Mathematics says you're the one who is delusional.
When you're arguing against mathematics you might consider examining your reasoning to see if you might find some weak sense.

Like, say, pretending the rail gun nerf wasn't that bad.

Stop pretending. Propagandizing it isn't going to save the game.
Show me those mathematics. Go on. Show how the complex tactical situations and loadout balance problems that arises in gameplay can be turned into a mathematical formula proving me wrong. I'm waiting.

That's not going to do you any good. I have done it, but If I share it with you you're just going to find a way to argue.

I gave you some of the variables you need to consider in the post I made above this.

If you actually want to know you have to do it yourself.
Redeyeflight Mar 28, 2024 @ 4:34am 
Let me be clear. I'm not giving it to you because you're showing signs of backfire effect.
https://effectiviology.com/backfire-effect-facts-dont-change-minds/#:~:text=The%20backfire%20effect%20is%20a,support%20of%20their%20original%20stance.

Your reasoning is weak sense, and there are no facts I can provide that will actually change your mind.

You have to do the work and find the facts yourself.
junimai233 Mar 28, 2024 @ 4:46am 
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, people. It's for bile spewers, bile nursers, and brood commanders. At least give the poor man some idea before "muh nerfs"
Redeyeflight Mar 28, 2024 @ 4:47am 
Originally posted by junimai233:
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, people. It's for bile spewers, bile nursers, and brood commanders. At least give the poor man some idea before "muh nerfs"

Autocannon is better at all of those things.
Crap, the MG-43 is better at all of those things.
Last edited by Redeyeflight; Mar 28, 2024 @ 4:48am
`digitaL.braVo Mar 28, 2024 @ 4:50am 
Originally posted by Zen:
So Im unlocking new stuff level 20 and tried it. It says its for armor penetration but its near useless against chargers for example so?..
Thanks
Nothing. It's objectively worse than many options since it was nerfed into oblivion.
Marik Mar 28, 2024 @ 5:15am 
Originally posted by Redeyeflight:
Originally posted by Kris:
Show me those mathematics. Go on. Show how the complex tactical situations and loadout balance problems that arises in gameplay can be turned into a mathematical formula proving me wrong. I'm waiting.

That's not going to do you any good. I have done it, but If I share it with you you're just going to find a way to argue.

I gave you some of the variables you need to consider in the post I made above this.

If you actually want to know you have to do it yourself.
How convenient that you don't have to argue!
Redeyeflight Mar 28, 2024 @ 5:19am 
Originally posted by Kris:
Originally posted by Redeyeflight:

That's not going to do you any good. I have done it, but If I share it with you you're just going to find a way to argue.

I gave you some of the variables you need to consider in the post I made above this.

If you actually want to know you have to do it yourself.
How convenient that you don't have to argue!

If you understood what backfire effect is, you would know why I'm not going to argue.
Read the article I linked.

It might change your life.
Aldaris Mar 28, 2024 @ 5:23am 
Originally posted by Redeyeflight:
Originally posted by Kris:
How convenient that you don't have to argue!

If you understood what backfire effect is, you would know why I'm not going to argue.
Read the article I linked.

It might change your life.
Or that you simply don't have evidence to back up your argument.

Seeing as I don't use railgun, I have no skin in the game.
Redeyeflight Mar 28, 2024 @ 5:26am 
Originally posted by Aldaris:
Originally posted by Redeyeflight:

If you understood what backfire effect is, you would know why I'm not going to argue.
Read the article I linked.

It might change your life.
Or that you simply don't have evidence to back up your argument.

Seeing as I don't use railgun, I have no skin in the game.

The issue is, the people I would be attempting to convince with the evidence will not allow the evidence to convince them.

Showing them the facts is just going to harden their minds against those facts and further entrench them in their existing position. This is the backfire effect.

The only way to counter that is offer them some minor assistance in finding the facts themselves.

If they truly believe they are correct, they have no reason to avoid that fact finding.
They believe it will just support their existing position.

If they already know they are wrong and arguing for an ulterior motive, they have no reason to seek facts.

Either way offering them a set of facts is counter productive.
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