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Traveler May 6, 2024 @ 1:42am
Sony is reverting the changes!
Democracy prevails, now we just need to revert all the negative reviews to show we were actually standing for something and not just by a-holes


https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929
Last edited by Traveler; May 6, 2024 @ 1:51am
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Zyenu May 6, 2024 @ 1:44am 
It was worth it, not for helldivers but for all ports going forward
Some1 May 6, 2024 @ 1:46am 
They banned the game from a lot of countries. Is that reverted too? If not, there are a lot of people needing our support so they can play too
Polaris May 6, 2024 @ 1:47am 
Originally posted by Traveler:
Democracy prevails, now we just need to revert all the negative reviews to show we were actually standing for something and not just by a-holes.
Why are you in such a hurry to put the cart before the horse?
Sony lied repeatedly, defrauded a lot of people, engages in scummy practices regularly.
Changes first, reviews later.
Sigma May 6, 2024 @ 1:47am 
You're asking too much of people, when it comes to yelling they are there, but when the change happens no one says anything and the game will stay at negative/mixed and potentally stop other people from buying a (drama aside) good game
Traveler May 6, 2024 @ 1:48am 
Originally posted by Some1:
They banned the game from a lot of countries. Is that reverted too? If not, there are a lot of people needing our support so they can play too
If they are no longer requiring PSN I imagine it will be reverted but AFAIK it hasn't gone through yet so keep an eye out.
l)ragon May 6, 2024 @ 1:48am 
Originally posted by Some1:
They banned the game from a lot of countries. Is that reverted too? If not, there are a lot of people needing our support so they can play too
that would be work hours and theyre probably not at work at this time lol.
Traveler May 6, 2024 @ 1:51am 
Originally posted by Polaris:
Originally posted by Traveler:
Democracy prevails, now we just need to revert all the negative reviews to show we were actually standing for something and not just by a-holes.
Why are you in such a hurry to put the cart before the horse?
Sony lied repeatedly, defrauded a lot of people, engages in scummy practices regularly.
Changes first, reviews later.

I think we both know it's EXTREMELY unlikely they're lying. It's not like they would gain anything from it. If they were lying people are still not making PSN accounts and would just revert their reviews back to negative.
Polaris May 6, 2024 @ 1:53am 
Originally posted by Traveler:
Originally posted by Polaris:
Why are you in such a hurry to put the cart before the horse?
Sony lied repeatedly, defrauded a lot of people, engages in scummy practices regularly.
Changes first, reviews later.

I think we both know it's EXTREMELY unlikely they're lying. It's not like they would gain anything from it. If they were lying people are still not making PSN accounts and would just revert their reviews back to negative.
It's EXTREMELY unlikely that a company would publicly engage in commercial fraud in as many countries as Sony, yet they did it. They're hotshot legal department didn't put the brakes on it either.

This whole thing is a huge matter of corruption and improbability. And reversing the reviews back to negative at a later date, when there's less pressure on them for shareholders, reporting, and internal deadlines would be less effective.

Better to first claim what was already won.
adi_a12 May 6, 2024 @ 2:02am 
no its not, psn requirement still on store page, and its still removed from many countries
AzKat 🐔 May 6, 2024 @ 2:05am 
Do not believe it until they make the announcement on steam.

Sony has lied multiple times so far, this would just be yet another time that Sony lies.
Originally posted by adi_a12:
no its not, psn requirement still on store page, and its still removed from many countries
Seen the news just asked for refund......
MadKiefer May 6, 2024 @ 2:08am 
A good day for spreading Democracy!
You know why they had to rwo back - money.
Originally posted by Some1:
They banned the game from a lot of countries. Is that reverted too? If not, there are a lot of people needing our support so they can play too

Valve delisted the game from those countries to try to protect consumers from being able to buy it and not play later (due to the requirement of a PSN account, and people in those countries not being able to legally make a PSN account without breaking ToS).

Presumably, Valve will relist the game in those nations since Sony is now saying that there will be no PSN account requirement, which means they will be able to play again, unhindered.

There is no reason to believe that Sony is lying in this. No, I'm not a shill, hear me out. If Sony is just lying to quell the masses for the moment, what do you think the response would be in a month when they make the PSN accounts a requirement, regardless of what they're saying right now? They would be dealing with a corporate nuclear meltdown that would rival Chernobyl in scale and breadth.

No Corp is that stupid when it comes to a massive loss of customers. Remember, Sony is a for profit corporation, it exists to make money. They cannot make money if they forcibly tarnish their own reputation on such a wide scale. They will abide by what they said in the tweet, because they must.
Polaris May 6, 2024 @ 2:45am 
Originally posted by Monadnock:
Originally posted by Some1:
They banned the game from a lot of countries. Is that reverted too? If not, there are a lot of people needing our support so they can play too

Valve delisted the game from those countries to try to protect consumers from being able to buy it and not play later (due to the requirement of a PSN account, and people in those countries not being able to legally make a PSN account without breaking ToS).

Presumably, Valve will relist the game in those nations since Sony is now saying that there will be no PSN account requirement, which means they will be able to play again, unhindered.

There is no reason to believe that Sony is lying in this. No, I'm not a shill, hear me out. If Sony is just lying to quell the masses for the moment, what do you think the response would be in a month when they make the PSN accounts a requirement, regardless of what they're saying right now? They would be dealing with a corporate nuclear meltdown that would rival Chernobyl in scale and breadth.

No Corp is that stupid when it comes to a massive loss of customers. Remember, Sony is a for profit corporation, it exists to make money. They cannot make money if they forcibly tarnish their own reputation on such a wide scale. They will abide by what they said in the tweet, because they must.
Problem with the logic that they wouldn't be that stupid: they already did it with Stellar Blade and Helldivers 2 (one time each)... it's why we're all posting here and now on this very subject.

Also, the tweet doesn't say what they will do... only that they won't do one specific thing. Typical boiler-plate non-statement. As you said, it's a for-profit company... they're not going to put forth a guarantee that can be used against them.

People can only watch and wait. Better to remain prudent than act out of haste.
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