can someone explain how if our accounts at psn are hacked, how they could gain access to our steam account?

[michaelthered]

I mean i guess if you used the exact same login credentials for both sites, sure.....but otherwise, how would someone who gets a list of email accounts from a psn hack dump...use that to gain access to your steam account? This is a serious question for me....it's a big part of my current internal debate on whether to capitulate to this little scheme.

[Dragon Master]

Let me tell you about the time Sony put a program on all the discs they were selling in 2005 that was designed to hack your software and gather all your data for you.

Or the fact that in the UK and Ireland in order to make an account you have to provide a facial scan or government id to even make the account so if Sony gets hacked again all the information you have that could be used to commit identity fraud will be in the hacker's hands.

There is no way that they aren't going to try and use the link to get access to the data on your computer. They've already proven they were willing to do it before.

[michaelthered]

also, if there's a moderator or some bot mod deleting my legitimate questioning threads that are trying to start an honest two sided debate.....not simply bashing Ah and SOE....im going to take that as a signal that there's indeed a coverup afoot and steam is taking part in it. Makes me even more hesistant to start a psn acct. Im asking legitimate questions as im undecided about whether to make a psn acct. But if this keeps up, i've had 2 or 3 threads get deleted.....that decision becomes self evident.

[Oobaneko]

They will get login, e-mail you linked, IP, so only left is get your e-mail (gmail, for an example), hack it, boom! 20k profit.

[michaelthered]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Let me tell you about the time Sony put a program on all the discs they were selling in 2005 that was designed to hack your software and gather all your data for you.

Or the fact that in the UK and Ireland in order to make an account you have to provide a facial scan or government id to even make the account so if Sony gets hacked again all the information you have that could be used to commit identity fraud will be in the hacker's hands.

There is no way that they aren't going to try and use the link to get access to the data on your computer. They've already proven they were willing to do it before.

from what i heard that requirement didnt' come from sony...it was the govts in that country. Whether or not thats true i dont' personally know, but that is "wild"....putting a face scan along with other verifying ID. Insane.

[Lovecraft]

Originally posted by Oobaneko:

They will get login, e-mail you linked, IP, so only left is get your e-mail (gmail, for an example), hack it, boom! 20k profit.

I like how you just say "hack gmail" as if it were nothing.

[Lovecraft]

Originally posted by michaelthered:

from what i heard that requirement didnt' come from sony...it was the govts in that country. Whether or not thats true i dont' personally know, but that is "wild"....putting a face scan along with other verifying ID. Insane.

The UK ID requirement is because of the Online Safety Act, which "requires a provider to use age verification or age estimation (or both) to prevent children of any age from encountering primary priority content that is harmful to children which the provider identifies on the service."

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2023/50/section/12/enacted

[michaelthered]

Originally posted by Oobaneko:

They will get login, e-mail you linked, IP, so only left is get your e-mail (gmail, for an example), hack it, boom! 20k profit.

what if you start an aux email that is in no way linked to your personal one? And just make sure to not use the same login creds....???

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Oobaneko:

They will get login, e-mail you linked, IP, so only left is get your e-mail (gmail, for an example), hack it, boom! 20k profit.

Steam has steam guard, Gmail has 4 step authentication. Hacking is not as easy as "Boom" hack it. Sure, someone CAN hack it, but it isn't llike it is in the movies where they push 2 buttons and are done.

[michaelthered]

Originally posted by Lovecraft:

Originally posted by michaelthered:

from what i heard that requirement didnt' come from sony...it was the govts in that country. Whether or not thats true i dont' personally know, but that is "wild"....putting a face scan along with other verifying ID. Insane.

The UK ID requirement is because of the Online Safety Act, which "requires a provider to use age verification or age estimation (or both) to prevent children of any age from encountering primary priority content that is harmful to children which the provider identifies on the service."

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2023/50/section/12/enacted

then it's kind of understandeable isn't it? I mean i guess kids could always have an older sibling put the face in.....i dunno. Im all for keeping some of this ridiculous content on the internet out of the reach of children...but there is a line.

[Imnuktam]

Originally posted by michaelthered:

I mean i guess if you used the exact same login credentials for both sites, sure.....but otherwise, how would someone who gets a list of email accounts from a psn hack dump...use that to gain access to your steam account? This is a serious question for me....it's a big part of my current internal debate on whether to capitulate to this little scheme.

Its your personal information that is at risk more than your steam account. When someone gets all your personal info they can use that to buy more off of darkweb sites and socially engineer you letting them pull much more destructive scams like Sim Swap phone scams.

The worry you should have with linking PSN to steam is you then open the door for PSN to ban and moderate you on top of steam, now you have two teams of woke mods banning your account for saying anything they dont like.

[Breezie]

They can gain access to more than your steam account.


CVE-2005-0295. The anti-cheat is the real problem. The PSN thing publishes the IPs of people following TOS, which makes a target map.

[Imnuktam]

Originally posted by michaelthered:

Originally posted by Oobaneko:

They will get login, e-mail you linked, IP, so only left is get your e-mail (gmail, for an example), hack it, boom! 20k profit.

what if you start an aux email that is in no way linked to your personal one? And just make sure to not use the same login creds....???

You should always have 2 emails, with 2 different phone numbers linked to both. Then if one gets compromised and they request a password reset, it goes to the other one and other email. It makes things like sim swap phone scams like I mentioned above much harder.

[zhero]

Originally posted by michaelthered:

Originally posted by Oobaneko:

They will get login, e-mail you linked, IP, so only left is get your e-mail (gmail, for an example), hack it, boom! 20k profit.

what if you start an aux email that is in no way linked to your personal one? And just make sure to not use the same login creds....???

then if you lose access to your rando email, you lose access to your game.

[michaelthered]

Originally posted by Imnuktam:

Originally posted by michaelthered:

I mean i guess if you used the exact same login credentials for both sites, sure.....but otherwise, how would someone who gets a list of email accounts from a psn hack dump...use that to gain access to your steam account? This is a serious question for me....it's a big part of my current internal debate on whether to capitulate to this little scheme.

Its your personal information that is at risk more than your steam account. When someone gets all your personal info they can use that to buy more off of darkweb sites and socially engineer you letting them pull much more destructive scams like Sim Swap phone scams.

The worry you should have with linking PSN to steam is you then open the door for PSN to ban and moderate you on top of steam, now you have two teams of woke mods banning your account for saying anything they dont like.

psn can only mod you for stuff you say/write on psn.....not other steam games. Right? Im not too worried about that part.....i strictly use discord anyway.

[Corey Greyfox]

The worst they get if your PSN information is hacked is whatever you gave them. So unless you were born yesterday, they get a fake name, and an e-mail address that you created specifically for signing up for crap.