F U C K SONY AND PLAYSTATION

[AaroWill]

Never again will I trust them.

I'm not even getting a PS5 at this point.

MAJOR EDIT: THEY ACTUALLY F U C K ING LISTENED, HOLY S H I T

TIME TO HELLDIVE

[Breezie]

So. A lot of people are dismissing the security threat outright, and saying it's an over-reaction. Let me paint you a picture that shows why it's not.

nProtect has had breaches (CVN-2005-0295. It let ANY process tell it what to do. Very bad design for a kernel level program. There are undoubtedly more vulns.), and is a VERY powerful piece of software. Finding a new vulnerability is completely feasible, if not expected in the future. Sony has a terrible track record on security.

So. What does this change? How about we think it through a bit.

A new exploit regarding nProtect on its own wouldn't be too terrible, as you could hide in the sea of internet connected devices. Your chances of being compromised is pretty low.

So Sony only has your email address right? Wrong. How do you think they can find out if someone is using a VPN? They're also gathering telemetry data. Things to include your IP, which is used to geolocate you.

So here's the thing so many of we PC players are concerned about. Sony gets compromised again, and the telemetry data gets got. That's now a target list to leverage any nProtect vulnerability / exploit and build a bot net, as well as gather whatever is on your computer. And there's literally no way you or your system would know.


Do you want a key logger on your PC? Cause that's how you get a key logger on your PC.

A key logger can record you logging into you bank account. Is this game worth that risk? Someone being able to log into your bank from your computer?

This is a far more serious things than some are acknowledging, and I figured I'd spell it out for people.




♥♥♥♥ you bots. I'mma keep doing this.
At least some real people might see wtf is actually at risk here.

[Anticitizen 1]

Hey since we are talking about Sony, someone made a very useful guide:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3239135096

Edit: also forgot, ♥♥♥♥ Sony with a cactus.

[XOLiD]

Last sony-related game I played was planetside 2 in like 2013 and I'm pretty sure when they got a data breach back then was the only time I've had info stolen and fraudulent charges occurred.

[Punished Rusty Shackleford]

Originally posted by XOLiD:

Last sony-related game I played was planetside 2 in like 2013 and I'm pretty sure when they got a data breach back then was the only time I've had info stolen and fraudulent charges occurred.

I will never give sony my credit card info ever. If I want to buy something, I go on Amazon, buy a gift card and apply it to the account. I'd never give SNOY my info

[XOLiD]

I actually found the article on it, turns out it was 2011 but I was only a couple years off.

"May 2011: Personal Details on 25 Million Sony Online Entertainment Customers Stolen
In May 2011, Sony announced that personal details from 25 million Sony Online Entertainment customer accounts were stolen. Along with names, addresses, birthdates, and phone numbers, hackers also gathered information about PC games customers purchased through the system.

During the hack, a database containing data from 2007 was also compromised. While it was referred to as “outdated” by Sony, it contained direct debit records from over 10,000 European customers, as well as personal data from around 23,400 individuals outside of the United States.

As part of the announcement, Sony confirmed that the data was actually taken on April 16 or April 17, 2011. Additionally, it said that it initially didn’t believe that any data was copied by hackers who accessed the system but later found that to be a false assumption."

[AaroWill]

Originally posted by XOLiD:

Last sony-related game I played was planetside 2 in like 2013 and I'm pretty sure when they got a data breach back then was the only time I've had info stolen and fraudulent charges occurred.

that game is on PC

[dyra55]

Originally posted by Punished Rusty Shackleford:

Originally posted by FBI:

you actually trusted them once

The PS1/PS2 era were their golden years. Then they got drunk with power

True, a different Sony from a different time

[XOLiD]

Originally posted by AaroWill:

Originally posted by XOLiD:

Last sony-related game I played was planetside 2 in like 2013 and I'm pretty sure when they got a data breach back then was the only time I've had info stolen and fraudulent charges occurred.

that game is on PC

It's owned by daybreak which used to be Sony Online Entertainment in the days I played it and had my data leaked.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_Game_Company

[dyra55]

Originally posted by AaroWill:

Originally posted by XOLiD:

Last sony-related game I played was planetside 2 in like 2013 and I'm pretty sure when they got a data breach back then was the only time I've had info stolen and fraudulent charges occurred.

that game is on PC

It was developed and published under Sony on PC
It always used its own account and launcher to play it

[dyra55]

Originally posted by Punished Rusty Shackleford:

I will never give sony my credit card info ever. If I want to buy something, I go on Amazon, buy a gift card and apply it to the account. I'd never give SNOY my info

Didn't thought about gift cards before, it's clever

[Sainray]

Playstation wanted money to play online. so to play helldivers 2 online u have to :

buy PS5,
buy game,
buy playstation Plus,
pay for internet connection.

coming soon to steam

[AaroWill]

Originally posted by XOLiD:

Originally posted by AaroWill:

that game is on PC

It's owned by daybreak which used to be Sony Online Entertainment in the days I played it and had my data leaked.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daybreak_Game_Company

interesting, thank goodness they aren't part of them anymore

[Tea]

yeh can't buy the game today as it's not avaible anymore in my country.. looks like sony lied to us

[jlfrye63]

Originally posted by RebelStorm:

Sony PlayStation will always be the best platform. Glad you agree.

but not quite with this rubbish ps5

[Distraction protocol]

Originally posted by RebelStorm:

Sony PlayStation will always be the best platform. Glad you agree.

nope. forced to pay to access my own internet? I don't understand how this is okay when you're already paying for internet