Sony is going to stop porting AAA games to PC. Thanks to us.

[Heineken]

This is getting way out of hand.
I get some people are upset I don't like the change too.

But doing refunds, sending death threats to AH/Sony is going to make them stop porting their future games.

Could you guys please relax. It takes 30 seconds to create a throwaway gmail and another 30 seconds to link it to your PSN account.

[Bogan]

Not really fussed as I also have a ps5. Maybe they should've thought about that before making the psn linking nearly 3 months after release

[P A C E R]

good riddance

[Breezie]

So. A lot of people are dismissing the security threat outright, and saying it's an over-reaction. Let me paint you a picture that shows why it's not.

nProtect has had breaches (CVN-2005-0295. It let ANY process tell it what to do. Very bad design for a kernel level program. There are undoubtedly more vulns.), and is a VERY powerful piece of software. Finding a new vulnerability is completely feasible, if not expected in the future. Sony has a terrible track record on security.

So. What does this change? How about we think it through a bit.

A new exploit regarding nProtect on its own wouldn't be too terrible, as you could hide in the sea of internet connected devices. Your chances of being compromised is pretty low.

So Sony only has your email address right? Wrong. How do you think they can find out if someone is using a VPN? They're also gathering telemetry data. Things to include your IP, which is used to geolocate you.

So here's the thing so many of we PC players are concerned about. Sony gets compromised again, and the telemetry data gets got. That's now a target list to leverage any nProtect vulnerability / exploit and build a bot net, as well as gather whatever is on your computer. And there's literally no way you or your system would know.


Do you want a key logger on your PC? Cause that's how you get a key logger on your PC.

A key logger can record you logging into you bank account. Is this game worth that risk? Someone being able to log into your bank from your computer?

This is a far more serious things than some are acknowledging, and I figured I'd spell it out for people.

[Supergoron]

Oh no, we won't get the Last of Us remastered again again.

Really though if Sony did stop porting games to PC over this it would just be a case of them taking the wrong message from the situation and shooting themselves in the foot (again) and losing possible sales from the PC audience.

[Comnav45]

This is making Sony radioactive as a publisher. If I were a game developer, Sony would be the last place to go for help. Remember, it took 7 years for Arrowhead to make this game, with about 3 months for the game to be come a hit organically without much in the way of advertising. It only took Sony a weekend to kill it. Who in their right mind would work with Sony after this?

[Hawksbri]

Oh~ no~... Whatever shall we do~?
Create more Game Emulators, mod the hell out of multiplayer games to play them on unofficial servers, and pirate.
OG God of War was on PC day-1 of it's release. How? Emulators and Pirates.
Every single game on every non-PC console, is already on PC, it's just not through official channels, and Publishers don't like it, but what can they do?

They've made hundreds of millions of dollars off of us PC Gamers through Steam AND Epic Games Store. As they begin to LOSE many of those millions of dollars, and get Bad Reviewed legitimately for their malpractices, and review-bombed on their singleplayer titles, they'll have to take us seriously. The PC Gaming market is HUGE, especially for anybody who is anybody with a wallet, wanting to play their games legitimately.
All the Achievement Hunters/Completionists, all the Whales, Dolphins, Porpoises, and players just wanting to enjoy a good story... we're in this together.

[Bunuffin]

And nothing of value was lost... because if we have to deal with this kind of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and deception (I altered the deal, pray i don't alter it any further) then we don't need those games.

I'm gonna be sending refunds requests until steam accepts or blocks me from doing it, if i get blocked i will ask them to remove this trash from my account because it's rotting my library

[Twizler Snits]

Originally posted by Elysium:

Who cares if Sony stops porting their games? The only thing I personally want from them is Bloodborne and Demon’s Souls remake. Sony games are pretty mid anyway so nothing of value would be lost if they stopped porting games here.

both sony exclusives. This will stop them from even considering it.

[♥ Beepy ♥]

Originally posted by Heineken:

It takes 30 seconds to create a throwaway gmail and another 30 seconds to link it to your PSN account.

Tell that to the thousands of Helldivers in the 177 non-PSN supported countries that were delisted last night, that paid for a game they can no longer access. Something that has been allowed to happen over the last 3 MONTHS by Sony.

And no, you cannot just "put in some rando country" or "use a VPN" as *both* are against PSN's TOS and are immediately bannable.

[mintiumheart]

Originally posted by Rob⛧Pentakill:

Originally posted by Heineken:

This is getting way out of hand.
I get some people are upset I don't like the change too.

But doing refunds, sending death threats to AH/Sony is going to make them stop porting their future games.

Could you guys please relax. It takes 30 seconds to create a throwaway gmail and another 30 seconds to link it to your PSN account.

No they're going to stop releasing games on Steam and make them exclusive to Epic Store.

anything on epic gets easy yoho too

[Grimsdottir]

Originally posted by ♥ Beepy ♥:

Originally posted by Heineken:

It takes 30 seconds to create a throwaway gmail and another 30 seconds to link it to your PSN account.

Tell that to the thousands of Helldivers in the 177 non-PSN supported countries that were delisted last night, that paid for a game they can no longer access. Something that has been allowed to happen over the last 3 MONTHS by Sony.

And no, you cannot just "put in some rando country" or "use a VPN" as *both* are against PSN's TOS and are immediately bannable.

Its wild how you can spell out the issue in plain english, and yet it still goes over their head. Must be nice, being so ignorant of other's plight.
No wonder the world is so bleak, we can't even stand with fellow gamers. "Do you guys not have a PSN account?!" blizzard ♥♥♥♥♥♥' moment..

[mintiumheart]

Originally posted by Hawksbri:

Oh~ no~... Whatever shall we do~?
Create more Game Emulators, mod the hell out of multiplayer games to play them on unofficial servers, and pirate.
OG God of War was on PC day-1 of it's release. How? Emulators and Pirates.
Every single game on every non-PC console, is already on PC, it's just not through official channels, and Publishers don't like it, but what can they do?

They've made hundreds of millions of dollars off of us PC Gamers through Steam AND Epic Games Store. As they begin to LOSE many of those millions of dollars, and get Bad Reviewed legitimately for their malpractices, and review-bombed on their singleplayer titles, they'll have to take us seriously. The PC Gaming market is HUGE, especially for anybody who is anybody with a wallet, wanting to play their games legitimately.
All the Achievement Hunters/Completionists, all the Whales, Dolphins, Porpoises, and players just wanting to enjoy a good story... we're in this together.

this.

[mintiumheart]

Originally posted by Elysium:

Who cares if Sony stops porting their games? The only thing I personally want from them is Bloodborne and Demon’s Souls remake. Sony games are pretty mid anyway so nothing of value would be lost if they stopped porting games here.

which i already play on pc anyway

[Mr. Wicked]

Good, it's been a proven fact as of recent that sony doesn't want to make any money.

[Supergoron]

Originally posted by Twizler Snits:

Originally posted by Elysium:

Who cares if Sony stops porting their games? The only thing I personally want from them is Bloodborne and Demon’s Souls remake. Sony games are pretty mid anyway so nothing of value would be lost if they stopped porting games here.

both sony exclusives. This will stop them from even considering it.

Like they're even considering Bloodborne anyways. People have been begging Sony for a re-release or remake of that game even on their own consoles. I'd wager I'd win the lottery before Bloodborne ever gets acknowledgement from Sony again, let alone a PC port.