Kids, where is the problem? MS use Xbox Live and Sony the PlayStation Network

[squidek4]

Enjoy the game and don't complain

[CEPHY]

I am yet to find a PC port of an Xbox game that forced you to make an account and link it several months after the release.

And the ones that do require an xbox account? Didn't require linking.

[squidek4]

Originally posted by CEPHY:

I am yet to find a PC port of an Xbox game that forced you to make an account and link it several months after the release.

And the ones that do require an xbox account? Didn't require linking.

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Even worse Xbox Live is already built into Windows itself

[♥ Beepy ♥]

Tell that to the gamers in those delisted 177 countries with no PSN support that will no longer be able to play the game that they bought.

[OGPG]

Not 1 game in my collection forces me to link my Steam account to a MS account in order to play

[squidek4]

Originally posted by ♥ Beepy ♥:

Tell that to the gamers in those delisted 177 countries with no PSN support that will no longer be able to play the game that they bought.

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Who says it will stay that way has not yet been finally decided..?

[Kono JoJo Da]

Just because you licked boots, doesn't mean I have to do the same

[Peter B]

Aw, not even one single jester. I feel bad for OP. :(

[New To This]

Just block and move on.
Doesn't own the game on PC, at best he does on PS, and he's trying to make others do the same thing he did.
Make a bad decision and sell out his fellow helldivers to the automatons.

[Juice]

Originally posted by squidek4:

Originally posted by CEPHY:

I am yet to find a PC port of an Xbox game that forced you to make an account and link it several months after the release.

And the ones that do require an xbox account? Didn't require linking.

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Even worse Xbox Live is already built into Windows itself

I am on Windows 10, I do not have it. Strange. I must have a working brain it seems.

[squidek4]

Originally posted by New To This:

Just block and move on.
Doesn't own the game on PC, at best he does on PS, and he's trying to make others do the same thing he did.
Make a bad decision and sell out his fellow helldivers to the automatons.

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Correct, I own Xbox and PS5

[Lovecraft]

Originally posted by OGPG:

Not 1 game in my collection forces me to link my Steam account to a MS account in order to play

They do, they just don't tell you.

Start the game from Steam, Steam gives MS your Steam ID. Then you login to MS, and MS links your accounts.

[Sentient Entropy]

Originally posted by Havenco:

Poor bait.

I'll bite.


OP, this is Steam. I have a Steam account. Sony can access my Steam credentials behind the scenes in whatever way Steam allows for, but I signed an agreement with Valve. Not Sony.

Sony wanting me to sign a stricter agreement with them is strictly Sony's problem. Losing access to a handful of games is no big deal, there are literally tens of thousands of games out there to play.

[PastaLaVista]

The problem is not having the account linking be required.
The problem is not even wanting no account linking whatsoever.
The problem is the bait and switch of not requiring it at launch and then making it mandatory months after release. if you don't want to make an account or can't because you are not in the supported countries, SONY thanks you for the money and is sad that it sucks so much to be you.

In SONY's own statement "it's optional to have a PSN account on SONY published games on PC", so when they silently change this on their website with no warning and no announcement days before this is supposed to go in effect, their intent is pretty clear and this is false advertisement.

If the PSN account creation is so trivial, then why make it mandatory?
If the PSN account link is so important, why launch the game without it instead of delaying it to make sure it works?
Why state PSN accounts on PC are optional and then quietly make changes to that statement in order to make it mandatory down the line?

I haven't touched an Xbox since 2014 from the good ol times of the 360, and i have an Xbox account from back then. If anything MS is upfront to the fact that you need an Xbox account to play their games. Annoying but you're not getting bait and switch 'd.

If you buy a Xbox game that requires Xbox live, usually you know what you're going into before you pay cash money for the product. People would be upset all the same if they bought a game and then months later MS comes around and locks you out unless you sign up for a MS or Xbox account, and they should be mad if MS pulls something like this.

On the HD2 store page it said "requires 3rd party account". In practice, this requirement was not true because it was possible to skip the process and in SONY's own word on their official websites was that signing in was OPTIONAL. That general statement applied to ALL SONY's games on PC, I think it's safe to assume that SONY own general statement overrules the individual game. I didn't need to make or link a PSN account on the Spiderman Remastered, so there was a precedent to also confirm SONY statement.

Nobody would have complained this much if the sign in was mandatory from launch.
Nobody would have complained if SONY didn't quietly change their FAQ on the matter hoping no-one noticed.

At the end of the day it does not matter if it's SONY, MS/Xbox, Apple or whatever other company doing this, altering the terms of a deal unilaterally after the completion of a sale and locking a customer out of a product they purchased if they won't or can't agree to the changes should be illegal, and SONY is getting all the flack that they deserve.

If MS/Xbox were to do this, I would expect the userbase to react in the same way, this business practice should not be condoned no matter which company does it.

If this is not enough for you to see why this is bad, go look Louis Rossmann videos on YT about the Roku TV debacle and HD2 in particular.

[John Digger]

ok corporate slave

[Squishy]

Originally posted by squidek4:

Enjoy the game and don't complain

Imagine telling people who soon won't be able to play in a country PSN isn't support in to "enjoy the game". At this point, this community deserves everything coming to it.

It's just not worth salvaging a playerbase this absent of any kind of common sense.