PSN account linking actual impact: addressing whiners

[yuki]

> You just used 10 minutes of your life to do it

I mean, that's it. Regarding concerns I've seen from people about it

1) "They never mentioned it before, its so scummy to do it now :(": my dude, this is literally one of the first things I saw when I first played the game. You simply ignored it and forgot about it.

2) PSN not available in your country: just pick another one. It's not like they're going to ban you over this. If they end doing it (which would be really retarded) THEN you can complain. The PSN doesn't even have a separate launcher like games from EA, Ubisoft, etc.

3) Data leaks from Sony, ohnoes: my PSN account has just my username and password. No real name, no address, no payment method. Just leave it blank, you'll be fine, and nothing of value will be stolen. Especially if you're using a password manager (which you should be doing already if you care that much about security on the internet).

4) "I'm not doing what I'm told by this corporate ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ >:O": I mean, you did it already for Steam, EA, Ubisoft, Blizzard, Google, Facebook, TikTok, and probably more. And those have WAY more than just a username. Truth is, you're just using this opportunity to enjoy the ability to spit in the face of a giant corporation, because they're bad. And you're good.

Edit 1: apparenlty filling garbage in the PSN account is a banable offense. Just fill nothing then.

Edit 2: One assumption I'm making about this, which might be false: linking your steam account to the PSN will NOT mean the PSN ToS will now apply to your Steam version of the game. Why would it? You're not playing through the PSN, but through Steam. The PSN is just an external system that will be used for limited additional functionalities, like cross-play and moderation (but we all know Sony just wants to see big numbers in their stats).

[Deathraven13]

Didn't read.

[Tazor]

And another one. Blocked at least 9 of you so far.

[Galo]

lies and HUGE oversight of real problems "linked" (ahaha) to sony getting your steam account linked, pathing way to sony only launcher and then w/e subs/ads blablabla
sheeple fighting the fight eh

[Mindmaker]

>Furry
Opinion discarded.

[Five]

An appeal to triviality is worthless when initiated by the other party.

If it's so trivial and won't have any impact on you and shouldn't be a big deal, then WHY is it such a big deal to Sony that they're willing to literally BAN huge swaths of their player base for this?

[Dagobert]

Suddenly forcing PSN after three months is a really bad move.
Especially because Steam is available in countries that don't have access to PSN.

What about money back for people who lose their access like this?
Or with people who don't want a PSN account?

Do they get their MONEY BACK?

PS: PSN is by far the most unsafe thing of all. PSN is hacked on average every 2 years.




April 2011: Hackers Access Personal Data of 77 Million Sony PlayStation Network Users
May 2011: Personal Details on 25 Million Sony Online Entertainment Customers Stolen
June 2011: Sony Pictures Website Hacked, Exposing One Million Accounts
November 2014: Hackers Steal 100 Terabytes of Data from Sony Pictures
August 2017: Hacker Group Accesses Sony Social Media Accounts
September 2023: Sony Investigates Alleged Hack
October 2023: Sony Notifies Employees of Data Breach

[Lord Ainz]

Ah another shill who flaunts their ignorance

[Scrubwave]

Always disregard opinions of "people" who consider finding roadkill a date.

[yuki]

Originally posted by Galo:

lies and HUGE oversight of real problems "linked" (ahaha) to sony getting your steam account linked, pathing way to sony only launcher and then w/e subs/ads blablabla
sheeple fighting the fight eh

Pure speculation, there isn't even a Sony launcher on pc right now. Why not save complaints for when/if it happens?

[Haggis MechHaggis]

Originally posted by Dagobert:

April 2011: Hackers Access Personal Data of 77 Million Sony PlayStation Network Users
May 2011: Personal Details on 25 Million Sony Online Entertainment Customers Stolen
June 2011: Sony Pictures Website Hacked, Exposing One Million Accounts
November 2014: Hackers Steal 100 Terabytes of Data from Sony Pictures
August 2017: Hacker Group Accesses Sony Social Media Accounts
September 2023: Sony Investigates Alleged Hack
October 2023: Sony Notifies Employees of Data Breach

this.
who knows what info Sony will be able to collect, and then inevitably leak

[yuki]

Originally posted by Dagobert:

Suddenly forcing PSN after three months is a really bad move.
Especially because Steam is available in countries that don't have access to PSN.

What about money back for people who lose their access like this?
Or with people who don't want a PSN account?

Do they get their MONEY BACK?

PS: PSN is by far the most unsafe thing of all. PSN is hacked on average every 2 years.




April 2011: Hackers Access Personal Data of 77 Million Sony PlayStation Network Users
May 2011: Personal Details on 25 Million Sony Online Entertainment Customers Stolen
June 2011: Sony Pictures Website Hacked, Exposing One Million Accounts
November 2014: Hackers Steal 100 Terabytes of Data from Sony Pictures
August 2017: Hacker Group Accesses Sony Social Media Accounts
September 2023: Sony Investigates Alleged Hack
October 2023: Sony Notifies Employees of Data Breach

Looks like a copy-paste after only reading the first line of my post. It's hard to read more than that nowadays, isn't it?

[Five]

Originally posted by yuki:

Originally posted by Galo:

lies and HUGE oversight of real problems "linked" (ahaha) to sony getting your steam account linked, pathing way to sony only launcher and then w/e subs/ads blablabla
sheeple fighting the fight eh

Pure speculation, there isn't even a Sony launcher on pc right now. Why not save complaints for when/if it happens?

Preparation is important.

Imagine if people did this with other, more important issues too?

"Why complain that we don't have a plan in place for when a meteor will hit Earth? Just wait until it hits and we can all scramble to deal with it then."

It's hyperbole, obviously. But the point is, right now people AREN'T banned, there's still a chance to change, fix, or clarify this before huge swaths of the playerbase are banned.

Waiting until everyone already loses their accounts, and all the time and money they put into this game when it might be legally too late to do anything about it is not a good idea.

Also people want to know if they can fix this issues, or at least clarify it now, because they don't want to put another 100+ hours into this game before they start banning people.

[Galahad]

You and others like you are missing the point. Yeah it's a minor ballache to have to make yet another account and remember yet another password to play a videogame these days. I'm 37 years old this started hurting my brain 10 years ago. The list of passwords in my head by the time I'm 60 years old is going to give me alzheimers in my rectal passage. But that isn't the reason the game is being completely dismantled right now.

The real issue is this : thousands of people can't make PSN accounts in their region, and Sony's anti-cheat bans VPN usage. Arrowhead are 'trying to get info from Sony about a fix for this' but there's nothing yet.

What possible workaround can you find for this? I don't foresee any. It would require Sony and Arrowhead to shift the way their game does multiplayer. Splitting PS players up from PC players or something. And it would require Sony to essentially say Sorry guys and they don't do that. They're the most ironfist company going. So basically.... end of the day thousands of people suddenly can't play their favourite game 3 months in.

[K1773R]

April 2011: Hackers Access Personal Data of 77 Million Sony PlayStation Network Users
May 2011: Personal Details on 25 Million Sony Online Entertainment Customers Stolen
June 2011: Sony Pictures Website Hacked, Exposing One Million Accounts
November 2014: Hackers Steal 100 Terabytes of Data from Sony Pictures
August 2017: Hacker Group Accesses Sony Social Media Accounts
September 2023: Sony Investigates Alleged Hack
October 2023: Sony Notifies Employees of Data Breach

[yuki]

Originally posted by Five:

Originally posted by yuki:

Pure speculation, there isn't even a Sony launcher on pc right now. Why not save complaints for when/if it happens?

Preparation is important.

Imagine if people did this with other, more important issues too?

"Why complain that we don't have a plan in place for when a meteor will hit Earth? Just wait until it hits and we can all scramble to deal with it then."

It's hyperbole, obviously. But the point is, right now people AREN'T banned, there's still a chance to change, fix, or clarify this before huge swaths of the playerbase are banned.

Waiting until everyone already loses their accounts, and all the time and money they put into this game when it might be legally too late to do anything about it is not a good idea.

Also people want to know if they can fix this issues, or at least clarify it now, because they don't want to put another 100+ hours into this game before they start banning people.

It's actually a good point that it's difficult to rebel AFTER being banned. But you'll still be able to leave a negative review on steam though.