HELLDIVERS™ 2

HELLDIVERS™ 2

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Meltebolgia May 3, 2024 @ 7:02pm
"Signing in to PSN is optional when playing a PlayStation game on PC." - Sony FAQ on May 3 2024, 2:23 PM
I was not informed when I bought the game that I must open a third party account (PSN).

I was not informed that I must link my Steam account to a third party account (PSN).

If when I bought the game I was introduced to a screen demanding to open a PSN account then I would have refunded the game.

I did not consent to give any personal data to Sony at the time of buying the product called Helldivers 2 for PC via Steam.

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Sony FAQ on May 3 2024, 2:23 PM :

Do I have to sign in to PSN to play a PlayStation game on PC?
Signing in to PSN is optional when playing a PlayStation game on PC.

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Thanks to this Reddit post for keeping the screenshots prior to Sony changing the agreement:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1cjjrys/♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥/?sort=new#lightbox
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Meltebolgia May 3, 2024 @ 7:46pm 
They just changed it in my region as well:

from:
Signing in to PSN is optional when playing a PlayStation game on PC.

to:
Some PlayStation games may require you sign in and link to an account for PSN.

https://www.playstation.com/en-ie/support/games/psn-sign-in-pc/

This should be passed in the dictionaries as the terminology to fraud and false advertisment.
Oktakon May 3, 2024 @ 7:48pm 
fk this democratic BS, yeah right more like a digital dictatorship BS
KarlThorsten89 May 3, 2024 @ 7:48pm 
It is fraud, lie, and intent of theft. We bought a game, and they're taking it away from us.
Well, at least people in regions where PSN is blocked, by the nation itself, or by Sony. Like Russia, China, Iran I think - Sony literally BANNED those nations from playing their games if said games require PSN. And those are a few out of OVER A HUNDRED (100) countries that can't use PSN.
Meltebolgia May 3, 2024 @ 9:38pm 
It gets even worse as Sony collects sensitive personal data, including biometric data, for age verification puproses.

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How do I verify my age?
You can verify your age by selecting a method that suits you; mobile number, facial scan, or ID. Verification methods are provided by our service provider, Yoti.

https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/support/account/age-verification-faq/

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Enable Face Recognition
You can log in to the PS4™ system with face data added using a PlayStation®Camera. When logging in, the camera recognises your face. Set a checkmark in [Login Settings] > [Enable Face Recognition].
https://manuals.playstation.net/document/gb/ps4/settings/facerecognition.html

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Btw anyone has any info on Sony's service provider company called Yoti?
5kbps May 4, 2024 @ 11:08am 
Shills are strangely quiet when this is posted, really makes you think, huh ?

Just spam this in their face, at best all they get to say (master only allow that much) are "2 minutes to create PeeEssEen account", "just use VPN lol","b-bro the linking was mandatory from the start" and "SIR PLEASE DONT REDEEM THE NEGATIVE REVIEW"
Felix Farside May 4, 2024 @ 11:12am 
Originally posted by Link your PSN acc, goyim:
Shills are strangely quiet when this is posted, really makes you think, huh ?

Just spam this in their face, at best all they get to say (master only allow that much) are "2 minutes to create PeeEssEen account", "just use VPN lol","b-bro the linking was mandatory from the start" and "SIR PLEASE DONT REDEEM THE NEGATIVE REVIEW"

Shills always duck information they can't brush away.
Dad May 4, 2024 @ 11:17am 
I want to see the paid shill arguments about why it's a "good thing" to go back and quietly try to change text to support your narrative. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ consumers.
Meltebolgia May 4, 2024 @ 11:23am 
On top of the obvious reasons not wanting to create a PSN account and link it with our Stem account as already mentioned, there is another serious longterm reason why Sony collects customers' personal data by any means.

Just check their latest patent on harassment detection via biometric and helath personal data:

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Title
(EN) HARASSMENT DETECTION APPARATUS AND METHOD

Applicants
Sony Interactive Entertainment Inc.

Abstract
A harassment detection apparatus includes: an executing unit configured to execute a session of a shared environment; an input unit configured to receive biometric data, the biometric data being associated with a plurality of users participating in the executed session of the shared environment; a generating unit configured to generate, based on at least a part of the biometric data, emotion data associated with the plurality of users, the emotion data comprising a valence value and/or an arousal value associated with each of the plurality of users; a detection unit configured to detect, responsive to at least a first part of the emotion data satisfying one or more of a first set of criteria, one or more first users associated with the at least first part of the emotion data; and a modifying unit configured to modify, responsive to the detection of the one or more first users, one or more aspects of the shared environment.

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11. A harassment detection apparatus according to claim 1, wherein the biometric data comprises one or more of:
i. a galvanic skin response;
ii. a heart rate;
iii. a breathing rate;
iv. a blink rate;
v. a metabolic rate;
vi. video data;
vii. audio data; and
viii. one or more input signals.

12. A harassment detection apparatus according to claim 1, wherein the biometric data is received from one or more:
i. a fitness tracking device;
ii. a user input device;
iii. a camera; and
iv. a microphone.

...

https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=US426726632&_cid=P22-LUOLU8-54587-1
Felix Farside May 4, 2024 @ 11:24am 
Yeah. And their definition of harassment is rather broad.
Aldain May 4, 2024 @ 11:26am 
Remember kids, Avoid the Snoyd.

...It feels kind of sad that more people are likely to be aware of The Noise from Pizza Tower than the Noid from Pizza Hut, or maybe I'm just old.
Felix Farside May 4, 2024 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by Aldain:
Remember kids, Avoid the Snoyd.

...It feels kind of sad that more people are likely to be aware of The Noise from Pizza Tower than the Noid from Pizza Hut, or maybe I'm just old.

I remember the Noid. I'm old, too.
Aldain May 4, 2024 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by Felix Farside:
Originally posted by Aldain:
Remember kids, Avoid the Snoyd.

...It feels kind of sad that more people are likely to be aware of The Noise from Pizza Tower than the Noid from Pizza Hut, or maybe I'm just old.

I remember the Noid. I'm old, too.
Here's to the sensation of feeling older by the second!
SvenVäpnare May 4, 2024 @ 11:31am 
This is not the first game to do this. Rockstar did it with GTA IV and the Social Club account requirement that was latter added on. That was a mess to be able to play my single player game again, it took weeks from support for verification's. I'm not making any new accounts anymore. Steam has been selling these games this way for years.
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