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Are we being forced to give kernel access to a multinational?
Arrowhead you need to explain this TOS PSN change MUCH MUCH more fully. I do not understand how the anticheat works but I also do not trust Sony AT ALL due to their history with this exact thing. (rootkits)
Please guarantee they cannot access any of the anticheat data or functions and explain what they are doing and what they want as much as you can.
As a scientist I have already had to move sensitive work things off my gaming PC because of this and as much as I love the game I cannot agree to these new terms without a proper explanation of how at risk we all actually are. Thanks.
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Pain May 3, 2024 @ 12:56am 
You should take this to the discord. They completely ignore steam and reddit. (good luck on discord, the mods are censoring any talk about this atm)
AoD_lexandro May 3, 2024 @ 12:58am 
PSN does not have kernel level access.

This is a red herring.
Sin Merchant May 3, 2024 @ 1:00am 
If you think this has a backdoor into your system more than you already have well;
I hope you're not doing anything too sensitive
Irier May 3, 2024 @ 1:00am 
At this point is safer to assume Sony will do whatever with whatever access they can get. Corporations aren't going to hold back for moral reasons.

But don't worry after they fumble the ball, just wait a couple years to get a complimentary game that has been out on the market a while even though you already gave up the PS3.
RubyCante May 3, 2024 @ 1:01am 
Originally posted by AoD_lexandro:
PSN does not have kernel level access.

This is a red herring.
their ANTI CHEAT do..
but seriously dude, DO NOT USE YOUR WORK PC to play game..
Skrain May 3, 2024 @ 1:01am 
Originally posted by AoD_lexandro:
PSN does not have kernel level access.

This is a red herring.
You must be ignorant about the whole anti cheat thing because it absolutely does have Kernal access.
Gauss May 3, 2024 @ 1:02am 
Originally posted by Pain:
You should take this to the discord. They completely ignore steam and reddit. (good luck on discord, the mods are censoring any talk about this atm)
Discord is currently getting spammed with "We're ♥♥♥♥♥♥" messages
アンジェル May 3, 2024 @ 1:03am 
Originally posted by RubyCante:
Originally posted by AoD_lexandro:
PSN does not have kernel level access.

This is a red herring.
their ANTI CHEAT do..
but seriously dude, DO NOT USE YOUR WORK PC to play game..

No one is that ... uneducated.
RubyCante May 3, 2024 @ 1:10am 
Originally posted by アンジェル:

No one is that ... uneducated.
it's bonkers how many people used their work PC to play games, or access weird website, or install some apps.. on their WORK PC.. that;s how your company data got leaked/hacked
Le Hatch May 3, 2024 @ 1:13am 
Well, considering it only runs when the game is running, your best bet to be safe would be to:

1. Literally not use your work PC to play games to begin with
2. Avoid running any suspicious or sensitive stuff with the game open.
Pijcab May 3, 2024 @ 1:13am 
Originally posted by RubyCante:
Originally posted by AoD_lexandro:
PSN does not have kernel level access.

This is a red herring.
their ANTI CHEAT do..
but seriously dude, DO NOT USE YOUR WORK PC to play game..

Wise words honestly

and to the other guy responding to you, yes people absolutely will do dumb stuff on their work PC like gamble or play games
Last edited by Pijcab; May 3, 2024 @ 1:14am
AoD_lexandro May 3, 2024 @ 1:14am 
Originally posted by Skrain:
Originally posted by AoD_lexandro:
PSN does not have kernel level access.

This is a red herring.
You must be ignorant about the whole anti cheat thing because it absolutely does have Kernal access.

No PSN does not have kernel level access and never has.

People who are ignorant of the process and software make these claims. GameGuard has kernel level access. PSN does not. Enforcing the requirements of a PSN account, does not mean PSN gets kernel level access.

The two do not equate.
sh3riff May 3, 2024 @ 1:14am 
I am playing with disabled GG, it crashes the game a lot of the time. Its off on my computer for almost 2 months now and had a single crash.
They should run these things on their servers, not in our computers.
I dont allow unwanted software on my pc, ever.
Last edited by sh3riff; May 3, 2024 @ 1:15am
Pain May 3, 2024 @ 1:14am 
Originally posted by RubyCante:
Originally posted by アンジェル:

No one is that ... uneducated.
it's bonkers how many people used their work PC to play games, or access weird website, or install some apps.. on their WORK PC.. that;s how your company data got leaked/hacked

Never underestimate human stupidity.
YMD May 3, 2024 @ 1:18am 
Originally posted by ShakeWutYoMommaGaveYa:
Arrowhead you need to explain this TOS PSN change MUCH MUCH more fully. I do not understand how the anticheat works but I also do not trust Sony AT ALL due to their history with this exact thing. (rootkits)

Any OS, whether it be microsoft windows or linux clones, already have full kernel access (e.g. rootkits). Actually, any Antivirus program also has it, and countless others too.

In fact, any program you install can secretly have it as long as they don't tell you. Also any program you install does not need full kernel access to do malicious stuff if they wanted to.
Believe me, if they wanted to steal your data, they don't need kernel access to do so.

So all this kernel access nonsense is just fear mongering by trolls or by people who don't know any better.
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Date Posted: May 3, 2024 @ 12:54am
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