Eruptor vs the new Polar warbond weapon Plas-101 Purifier....

[lawshadow]

Have a look at this new trailer for the new warbond just in case it is an OFFICIAL trailer pay attention at 0:43 the new primary (did i say PRIMARY weapon?) weapon only takes ONE damn shot to kill a Strider...hmmmmmm and i bet it has a way higher fire rate!!! Then the Eruptor

This got me boiling (no not at the new weapon by all means let it one shot striders so we have OPTIONS!!) this however made me boil in a sense....

To all people telling the Eruptor with its MASSIVE slow reload MASSIVE slow AIM speed and the ability to kill you with Shrapnel and Ricochet should not take out Striders in one shot (like it did PRE patch) well...it should ONE shot these units and Berserkers for all the heavy drawbacks that it came with...Like insane DRAWBACKS takes skill to actually use and AIM! In the meantime the new Plas-101 Purifier takes them out with one shot....Its a charge weapon i think yet STILL has a higher fire rate then the Eruptor which is more a skill weapon.

I just dont understand the NERF on the Eruptor i mean i didnt saw many people using it played 263 hours in total so i do know the mechanics! It is Extremely deserved it should ONE shot Striders one shot Berserker (belly shot). I wonder when they promised to buff the Eruptor since the Shrapnel and Ricochet can kill you. Yup had it to "Killed by Lawshadow" many times already ok cool fix that bug but they remove the schrapnel damage which is a big part of the weapons damage. To compensate for that loss they will give it a higher hit damage which is NOT a buff but an compensation for removing the schrapnel damage they should call it a FIX not buff. If the weapon cant one shot these above mentioned enemies after the promised fix ehhh i mean buff then the weapon becomes absolute POINTLESS waste of time not gonna reload 3 times just to kill a Strider or Berserker. While some other primaries can take it out in seconds or a sloppy aim with just one shot....I do like the Eruptor for its reward for carefull aim vs Shield bots and rocketeers aim at head.

Video: (see 0:43)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpOLmfbtCs

Edit confirmed Charge weapon: LAS-101 Purifier: A PLAS variant that can be charged up to fire shots with increasing damage and be used to set traps.

[Necrosmos]

I would advise not making assumptions about the new purifier gun until it’s released. Who knows, maybe it’ll have massive downsides?

[LordoftheRobe]

Originally posted by lawshadow:

Have a look at this new trailer for the new warbond just in case it is an OFFICIAL trailer pay attention at 0:43 the new primary (did i say PRIMARY weapon?) weapon only takes ONE damn shot to kill a Strider...hmmmmmm and i bet it has a way higher fire rate!!! Then the Eruptor

This got me boiling (no not at the new weapon by all means let it one shot striders so we have OPTIONS!!) this however made me boil in a sense....

To all people telling the Eruptor with its MASSIVE slow reload MASSIVE slow AIM speed and the ability to kill you with Shrapnel and Ricochet should not take out Striders in one shot (like it did PRE patch) well...it should ONE shot these units and Berserkers for all the heavy drawbacks that it came with...Like insane DRAWBACKS takes skill to actually use and AIM! In the meantime the new Plas-101 Purifier takes them out with one shot....Its a charge weapon i think yet STILL has a higher fire rate then the Eruptor which is more a skill weapon.

I just dont understand the NERF on the Eruptor i mean i didnt saw many people using it played 263 hours in total so i do know the mechanics! It is Extremely deserved it should ONE shot Striders one shot Berserker (belly shot). I wonder when they promised to buff the Eruptor since the Shrapnel and Ricochet can kill you. Yup had it to "Killed by Lawshadow" many times already ok cool fix that bug but they remove the schrapnel damage which is a big part of the weapons damage. To compensate for that loss they will give it a higher hit damage which is NOT a buff but an compensation for removing the schrapnel damage they should call it a FIX not buff. If the weapon cant one shot these above mentioned enemies after the promised fix ehhh i mean buff then the weapon becomes absolute POINTLESS waste of time not gonna reload 3 times just to kill a Strider or Berserker. While some other primaries can take it out in seconds or a sloppy aim with just one shot....I do like the Eruptor for its reward for carefull aim vs Shield bots and rocketeers aim at head.

Video: (see 0:43)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpOLmfbtCs

I've been warning people as best i can that arrowhead has done this multiple times already now.

every warbond has been met with significant nerfs and borderline useless buffs.

but between the fanatics trying to bury me and arrowhead's mods trying to throw me on the pyre... its been hard trying to get the msg out

[Doko]

I get what you mean OP, but this feels par the course for any company to do this. You *have* to make your newest product or service stand out against the previous one, so them making this warbond> the previous one makes sense, even if it does set us back via the nerfs.

[Vintorez]

Trailers tend to be exaggerated, I'd wait until it's seen ingame. Though even if it does there's still lots of the things the Eruptor does that I doubt the new gun can do.

[lawshadow]

Originally posted by Necrosmos:

I would advise not making assumptions about the new purifier gun until it’s released. Who knows, maybe it’ll have massive downsides?

You misunderstand my point.

It may or may not come with drawbacks for the new weapon. The Eruptor came with TON of drawbacks but NOW it cant even ONE shot Striders or Berserkers....takes 2 or 3 shots how SILLY.

But if you paid attention he shot straight through the though armor plate of the Strider which means good penetration vs armored units or some form of explosion that goes through armor thats how i see things. And since it is a OFFICIAL trailer it tells me al i need to know that it is at least effective vs single units.

The only thing i can say your maybe right is the "fire rate" on that thing and i will say it flat out i bet it has a way higher fire rate then the Eruptor meaning it can kill MORE units with just ONE shot then the Eruptor with its single shot performance and INTENSE slow reload and aim speed.....so we shall see when they release the "buff" for the Eruptor aka fix for the Shrapnel and Ricochet killing you and thus removes these and compensate with higher hit damage i just hope it then can ONE shot the above mentioned units!

[LoboFH]

Originally posted by LordoftheRobe:

...and borderline useless buffs...

...the fanatics...

Oh yeah, to tell that you don't know what you are talking about is fanatism.

[lawshadow]

Originally posted by Vintorez:

Trailers tend to be exaggerated, I'd wait until it's seen ingame. Though even if it does there's still lots of the things the Eruptor does that I doubt the new gun can do.

Trully i didnt took the Eruptor to destroy BoT factories and holes really. I love sniping and this gun suits my playstyle to kill elite units that pose a threat to my team mates. The destroy Bot factories and holes is just a nice bonus but i wouldnt mind if they removed that from the Eruptor as long as it can one shot certain elite enemies.

[ShockedHearts]

its a charged shot. and likely has an overheating system... and i doubt its ammo economy is generous either.

also eruptor has blast shrapnel that can kill small groups, and or small explosion radius.

this gun doesnt seem to have that. and instead pierces armor very well at full charge.

[Plagen]

Who knows, maybe they were fighting Striders from before this patch in the trailer, when one shot from an Eruptor would have killed them and the new gun won't one-shot them now.

After all, it takes time to record footage and put together a trailer, so that footage is probably old. Don't get yourself in a tizzy.

[Doko]

Originally posted by ShockedHearts:

its a charged shot. and likely has an overheating system... and i doubt its ammo economy is generous either.

also eruptor has blast shrapnel that can kill small groups, and or small explosion radius.

this gun doesnt seem to have that. and instead pierces armor very well at full charge.

At this point I expect most guns to have like 1, maybe 2 pros tops, but more cons, because I feel that's how AH roll (actually a good chunk of devs think having less pros than cons is good gameplay, which is still weird of a mentality to have).

[SuperMrSkully]

Originally posted by ShockedHearts:

also eruptor has blast shrapnel that can kill small groups, and or small explosion radius.
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They're removing shrapnel from the Eruptor

[SuperMrSkully]

Originally posted by LordoftheRobe:

I've been warning people as best i can that arrowhead has done this multiple times already now.

every warbond has been met with significant nerfs and borderline useless buffs.

but between the fanatics trying to bury me and arrowhead's mods trying to throw me on the pyre... its been hard trying to get the msg out

What's worse is that they always seem the "buff" and nerf everything from the premium warbonds about 2 weeks to 1.5 weeks before the new one. Plus on release , there's always something in the warbond that's broken mechanically (doesn't work) or broken metaphorically ("overpowered").

[lawshadow]

Originally posted by ShockedHearts:

its a charged shot. and likely has an overheating system... and i doubt its ammo economy is generous either.

also eruptor has blast shrapnel that can kill small groups, and or small explosion radius.

this gun doesnt seem to have that. and instead pierces armor very well at full charge.

No they nerfed a lot of the explosion radius you can NOT use it as crowd control anymore well maybe if the solders are holding hands then you can take out 2 of them. Pre patch you could take out like 7 to 10 mooks with one shot and i agree that was a bit OP. But after the patch it hugely lost its explosion radius + explosion damage meaning you cant crowd control effectively anymore (this was not my main reason to pick it up btw). Also pre patch you could one shot striders and one shot berserkers 100% consistently even from LONG rane up to 125m!

Maybe the new warbond primary weapon has drawbacks sure with that ability to one shot certain enemies must come with negative drawbacks like not much magazines or overheat. But people who know how to use can adn WILL bypass those shortcommings and still be very effective with it. Just like with Eruptor users i only go after HIGH value targets since it WAS meant to be used in that way IMO. I do think the new weapon has a HIGHER fire rate the the Eruptor which makes it kind of unfair for all the massive drawbacks on the Eruptor and they killed the aspect of one shotting certain enemies in the new patch. Just saying. PS love the new looks on the new Polar armor and i dont mind powerfull primaries while i may not like them that much but i want people to have fun with them even if it means one shotting enemies who cares as long as people have fun AND have fun with their LAYOUT. Gosh AH needs to understand this enough with the cancerous nerfs al the time or suffer the same faith as Blizzard and people will move on to other games. And thats a shame HD2 is fun in the bigger picture thats why i still have some faith but if that wont happen then F this corny game filled with LOTS of bugs the never seem to fix!