Fixed Viper Commando Armor Passive is S+ Tier.

[Skoppter]

Now that the weapon handling improvement is working I can say a few things.

1. Stalwart moves like an assault rifle
2. Medium Machine Gun moves better than no passive Stalwart
3. Heavy Machine Gun moves slightly better than no passive Medium Machine Gun
4. Dominator Moves almost like an assault rifle.

Overall, if you like these stratagems or any heavier weapons this is now a solid armor choice for more than just looks.

[LoboFH]

Yes, good for Eruptor, HMG, etc.

There is now a real contender for my beloved Trailblazer armour. I will keep using the helmet though.

[Hand's Hermit Permit]

Kinda nutty

[Yuh]

I was upset the passive did not work but that to me makes them the 3 best sets now.

[Cabbage]

Originally posted by Hero Element:

They need to add a full body armor version of this. I'm not running sleeveless just for this passive.

Other armor passive that has an "aesthetic" has had it put on armors that don't match the aesthetic so there should be no exception here.

+2 grenade armor originally was on armor that had grenades strapped all over it, is now on regular looking armor
+throwing range armor was originally on armor that had mechanical arms, is now on regular looking armor

Nah

[Cicolas.Nage]

did the flamethrower felt any different?

[Skoppter]

Originally posted by Cicolas.Nage:

did the flamethrower felt any different?

Didn't try it but it should.

[That person]

Originally posted by Hero Element:

They need to add a full body armor version of this. I'm not running sleeveless just for this passive.

Other armor passive that has an "aesthetic" has had it put on armors that don't match the aesthetic so there should be no exception here.

+2 grenade armor originally was on armor that had grenades strapped all over it, is now on regular looking armor
+throwing range armor was originally on armor that had mechanical arms, is now on regular looking armor

I Can't get my head around why having sleeves would matter so much that someone would outright refuse to use a passive that they like.
There's plenty of armours that i don't like the look of, but that i wear when i want that passive..
Choice is good of course, but ultimately it matters not

[LoboFH]

Originally posted by Hero Element:

Woah let me help you out I don't want you to hurt yourself. Some people don't care how OP or good something is, they won't use it if it is not aesthetically pleasing or cool. I don't think sleeveless armor looks cool, therefore I won't gimp my aesthetic for it.

You have issues against Rambo, we got it.

[Sanglaine]

Cool. Now if you'll excuse me I am going to continue to just use hyperlight padded due to my belief that mobility in a timed game is the real strongest stat.

[Iron Horse]

Originally posted by LoboFH:

Originally posted by Hero Element:

Woah let me help you out I don't want you to hurt yourself. Some people don't care how OP or good something is, they won't use it if it is not aesthetically pleasing or cool. I don't think sleeveless armor looks cool, therefore I won't gimp my aesthetic for it.

You have issues against Rambo, we got it.

Don't have issues against Rambo.

We are NOT Rambo.

We are squishy Helldivers.

We trip and ragdoll over rocks.

Our explosives are like gnat farts compared to Rambo's explosive bow.

[LoboFH]

Just a video for context:

https://youtu.be/HERAGKZWWbw?si=fQrYV0vp76pzvaCG

Amazing, this armour makes those clunky weapons a totally different thing.

[Khloros]

It definitely plays strongly to the HMG the most IMO.
Though i still feel like the HMG needs 25 more rounds to really feel right, the handling provided by the armor perk really reallly makes the HMG feel like a solid choice now.

[Skoppter]

Originally posted by LoboFH:

Just a video for context:

https://youtu.be/HERAGKZWWbw?si=fQrYV0vp76pzvaCG

Amazing, this armour makes those clunky weapons a totally different thing.

Thats a great example, thanks for posting!

[Thumb]

Try the eruptor. It's legit. Also the nade launcher is now a king maker.