HMG or MG

[27]

Quick question, does anyone know if the machine gun can serve the same purpose as the heavy MG for automatons specifically? I.E taking down gunships, killing hulks and tanks, destroying fabricators, etc.

[StormhawkV]

Originally posted by Koala 4peace:

You cannot apply this without bias...

The minimum bias is "balance".

The devs could distribute it evenly but instead they only claim it when it's to the detriment of the player. In cases where it's not they claim balance. This is what I meant when I said bias.

[imsouporcereal]

MG is meant to be a substitute primary.

HMG is a reactionary Support Weapon. I like bringing it simply bc it has the capability to kill literally everything… including things you wouldn’t think it could like Shrieker Nests and Spore Spewers.

I mained the HMG when it was dogwater. The new reload speed makes it infinitely more viable.

[Wutever]

MG-43 is perfectly capable of handling everything that the HMG can handle, except for Hulk heads and Factory Strider heads. The difference is that you need to shoot different weakspots because you have AP3 instead of AP4.

It can take down a gunship in ~2/3 of a magazine, which isn't good, but it can assist with them. Hulks need to have their heatsink shot. Tanks and cannons die in the heatsink fairly quickly too. Neither HMG or MG can destroy bot buildings.

Where the MG-43 excels is killing infantry, Berserkers, Striders and Devastators, especially on max RPM and with an ammo pack. If you run any plasma gun as a backup for Gunships and Tanks you're in pretty good shape.

[JimmyD]

Originally posted by rojogames371:

The HMG-203 sucks. (and always has sucked.)

You're objectively wrong, but okay. HMG and supply pack is one of the best combos in the game for bots and bugs, and the new reload speed makes it extra versatile.

Originally posted by PrisRad:

Ah so don't use the machine gun like a machine gun, got it

Considering that the HMG is the futuristic equivalent of a man portable Browning M2, no... you don't use a heavy machine gun like a LMG or SAW. Burst fire while crouching really helps and you can still mag dump into crowds of bugs/bots if needed.

[imsouporcereal]

Originally posted by JimmyD:

Originally posted by rojogames371:

The HMG-203 sucks. (and always has sucked.)

You're objectively wrong, but okay. HMG and supply pack is one of the best combos in the game for bots and bugs, and the new reload speed makes it extra versatile.

Originally posted by PrisRad:

Ah so don't use the machine gun like a machine gun, got it

Considering that the HMG is the futuristic equivalent of a man portable Browning M2, no... you don't use a heavy machine gun like a LMG or SAW. Burst fire while crouching really helps and you can still mag dump into crowds of bugs/bots if needed.

The engineer(?) armors are a must. Whatever armor has the 30% recoil reduction and +2 nades.

Plus, you get the bonus of having 6 stun grenades which are also a must with the HMG.

[Koala 4peace]

Originally posted by imsouporcereal:

The engineer(?) armors are a must. Whatever armor has the 30% recoil reduction and +2 nades.

Plus, you get the bonus of having 6 stun grenades which are also a must with the HMG.

I love this combo. It's awesome.

[JimmyD]

Originally posted by Koala 4peace:

Originally posted by imsouporcereal:

The engineer(?) armors are a must. Whatever armor has the 30% recoil reduction and +2 nades.

Plus, you get the bonus of having 6 stun grenades which are also a must with the HMG.

I love this combo. It's awesome.

Agreed, and so satisfying to stun a charger, lunge behind it and eviscerate its butt

[Vivianite]

pick your preference both are good but are not on the same weight-class of tasks for each other.

MG works more vs bugs due to there being physically more present than that of bots and most of them are medium armored at the most

HMG works more vs bots due to there being more devastator class enemies present on higher difficulties, and a beserker horde doesn't hold up well vs it. it can also dome hulks and take out gunships, albeit with difficulty on both counts. it CAN deal with the fact' strider tho it's ill advised since it can only really be used underneath it or directly at the face

[killtastic201]

MG is better against bugs because it has more ammo, better recoil control, fire rate, etc. against the bots, the pen of the HMG is much more useful. the extra penetration changes *everything*.

[Kev]

Another under-appreciated trait of the HMG is that it can stagger heavy devastators just enough to throw off their aim. So even if you just spray the HMG in their direction, you can keep a group of devastators busy while remaining relatively safe.

[ELX-Sevazinho☄]

MG 209, predator armor, supply pack and gunships are down