Stealth Issues

[Seryph]

If you are going to give me armor that reduces the detection radius of enemies, than how about not spawning the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on top of me constantly?

To start with, i think this game is incredibly fun, and do genuinely enjoy it whenever i play, however, there is an issue that has started pissing me off beyond belief: The Enemies will ALWAYS know where you are, even if you havent been detected during the mission by literally anything.

Ive been trying to solo missions and it goes pretty well up until extraction, which isnt an issue at all. What i DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH is that no matter what i do, against the Bots (i havent tested it against the bugs yet) during the VIP Extraction mission, it is Physically IMPOSSIBLE to stealth it, and there is 1 core reason why.

No matter what you do, what armor you are running, the paths you take, where you drop, or even if you dont fire a SINGLE BULLET, the enemy will ALWAYS know where your location is. At first i thought it was bad luck. "Alright, sure, the map spawns enemies every minute or so, prolly just unlucky placement, whatever." I didnt think too much of it, after all, ♥♥♥♥ happens, just gotta readjust my route and itll be alright. So thats what i did, only for ANOTHER ship to drop pretty much on top of me, instantly losing the mission. At that point i was thinking "ok, thats ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but ill just restart the mission." Alt-F4 and reload into the mission, and the same thing happened.

At this point im getting pretty pissed off, so i decide that i will test something. I spawned onto the edge of the map, and sprinted to the coast. Im running a stealth armor with improved radar and the radar range perk, so i can stay a good distance away and not worry about enemies. Behold, i get to the coastline and get the Bot Drop notification about 30 seconds in, no big deal, they are dropping up the coast about 40 meters, than i ran back to where i spawned, crouched, and took my intended path to the base, thinking i hopefully backtracked and the AI mightve lost track of me (Stupid idea in general, but i wanted to be thorough) and i start seeing bot drops on the path that i took already behind me. At this point i pretty much knew that the AI was intentionally dropping ♥♥♥♥ on me, but i figured they would just stay put and not be a problem, probably the game trying to keep enemies within X Distance of me in case i ♥♥♥♥ up or to put pressure on me, no big deal i thought to myself.

THAT WAS UNTIL I GOT TO THE ACTUAL BASE TO START EXTRACTING AND ALL THE AI BOT DROPS WERE SET TO PATH TOWARD THE BASE LOCATION THE ENTIRE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ GAME

Are you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ me Devs? Are you genuinely proud of this idea? In what universe are stealth mechanics in a game not meant to be used? i was under the impression that in a game that gives you nudges to try out stealth by giving you armor with perks that reduce enemy detection radius, ping locations ahead of you around your waypoints to avoid enemies, i figured you would want me to do that. Only now that im actually trying the playstyle that was intended with this armor, youre shoving enemies down my throat desperately trying to ♥♥♥♥ me over for trying to play into said armor and equipment.

If i am never seen on a mission, there should be no reason for enemies to know why im there, let alone the fact that im there in the first place. This is genuinely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ development of a system. The rest of your game is fantastic, but either let me stealth this mission type like i can with other missions, or delete the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stealth from the game. FOLLOW YOUR OWN RULES SET FORTH IN THE GAME

[Aegis Kay]

I thought I was going mad but you are right. The bots trigger the last known position search whenever you get in the sites radius, at least according to my testing. There is not a single other mission type that does this.

I think its to stop people cheesing the mission, but at the same time it does suck that you can't use stealth during the extraction phase. Regardless if anyone else is doing stealth on this mission type, stick to using it to extract resources and leave. You can't complete the primary objective without fighting.

[capybaras are cool]

lol it really is super bs when like 50 bugs just spawn on top of you without even an alert. like what the hell am i supposed to do.

[Maniac]

I was also infuriated, hiding, and watching the enemies make a beeline for my location, as if I had a tracker on me.

[BEEP!]

It wasn't a problem when the game came out but now their just spawning out of nowhere at least with the bugs they come out of the ground but bots just spawn in from thin air.

[Nihil]

The issue is that stealth could work till a degree but the enemy always cheats.
I noticed that if you are completely prone and even have the stealth armor perk active, the patrols (at least the bugs) will always walk past you, and then stop and beeline your position. And it is a constant case. Can reproduce it all the time.
So what is the point of being stealthy when the bugs always know where you are?
This is the same nonsense Alien Isolation did.

Originally posted by Maniac:

I was also infuriated, hiding, and watching the enemies make a beeline for my location, as if I had a tracker on me.

THIS.
Just said the same because i noticed it too

[Aegis Kay]

OK, after more testing its only new patrols that move to your location. So long as you can keep moving you'd be fine, however the game DOES CHEAT to work out where you are when it decides where to send the patrol. As the patrol has a different awareness state compared to other enemies, it also gets a small bonus to detection.

[Mecha Carny]

It's so funny. One moment you can be in prone in front of a bot and it won't bat an eye, but come extraction and suddenly they have wallhacks. A patrol APPARENTLY spotted me behind a big fat rock without a proper sightline.